Hx3 organ module and Kronos

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:08 am

I am currently using a Hammond XK1 as a controller for my HX3 organ module. I am trying to use my Kronos as the the controller. I set up a combination. It sorta works except for sending program controller numbers. Any one out there doing anything like this and could give me some pointers. The HX3 only has 10 midi channels.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:51 pm

I think I can help you. Are you trying to record or are you using it in a live performance situation?

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:50 pm

I'm using in a live situation. Thank you for responding

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:32 pm

I have an XK1 MIDIed up to my Kronos for XK1 program changes. You might need to adjust the HX3 organ module to get it to work. First I set the XK to recieve on MIDI channel 16. The I use Kronos Combi Timbre #16 set to transmit on channel 16 (keeps it form getting confusing). Then I set Timbre "Status" to EX2. Now you need to know the MSB & LSB and program number on the HX3 organ module for the patch you want to use. Should be in the HX3 organ module manual somewhere. The PC is set from the Combination P0: Play tab (the main one). Note that the Bank/Program Select box does list the Korg Programs and banks- the is just 000 displayed. Put the PC in here. Be sure to hit ENTER or it won't memorize it. Now go to the Combination P2 tab and set the MSB and LSB. Hit enter and then WRITE the Combination. You shoud be good to go.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:12 am

ronnfigg wrote:I have an XK1 MIDIed up to my Kronos for XK1 program changes. You might need to adjust the HX3 organ module to get it to work. First I set the XK to recieve on MIDI channel 16. The I use Kronos Combi Timbre #16 set to transmit on channel 16 (keeps it form getting confusing). Then I set Timbre "Status" to EX2. Now you need to know the MSB & LSB and program number on the HX3 organ module for the patch you want to use. Should be in the HX3 organ module manual somewhere. The PC is set from the Combination P0: Play tab (the main one). Note that the Bank/Program Select box does list the Korg Programs and banks- the is just 000 displayed. Put the PC in here. Be sure to hit ENTER or it won't memorize it. Now gop to the Combination P2 tab and set the MSB and LSB. Hit enter and then WRITE the Combination. You shoud be good to go.

Oops I meant to say "Bank/Program Select box doesn't list..."

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:52 pm

In the Global settings on Kronos what midi channel do you use?

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:34 am

Channel 1. Why do you ask?

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:18 am

Sorry I haven't got back to you my kronos was not at hand. I understand what your saying, the problem is when you put this combination into a set list and put this organ patch in it there is no way, that I know of anyway to send or store program changes in a set list. I'm I missing something. Plan b is that i control The Hx3 organ module manually I guess.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:00 am

If you use a Combination and that works then it should work when you put the Combi in the Set List. I do it ask the time. You must use a Combination to do this.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:18 am

Can you tell me how you are connecting the 3 instruments? I think this is where your problem lies. I assume you go Kronos out to HX3 MIDI in? This would give you control of patch changes on the HX3. How do you get the XK-1 to control the HX3? From what I saw online it appears the hx3 has two possible midi inputs. If it allows for the merging of the two midi inputs then you should be able to get it to do what you need. Otherwise you might need to buy a midi merger to be able to do this.

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:11 pm

I've never hooked all three together. It was never needed. I use my Xk1 as a controller and when I hit presets on the XK1 it changes the Hx3 perfectly. Now I want to use the Kronos only as a controller only and take advantage of the kronos also. I want to have a set list with kronos patches and patches for the Hx3 work independently when I put the Kronos on midi ch 9 by the way the Hx3 is set on 9 also it only has 10 midi ch. and play Kronos patches the Kronos sound is present along with the Hx3 sounds. Also program changes work. When I change the Kronos to midi channel 1 when I run the Hx3 on ch 9 it works you dont hear the kronos patches. They work independently but the Kronos doesn't send the program changes. I guess I want the best of both worlds.

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:12 pm

I've never hooked all three together. It was never needed. I use my Xk1 as a controller and when I hit presets on the XK1 it changes the Hx3 perfectly. Now I want to use the Kronos only as a controller only and take advantage of the kronos also. I want to have a set list with kronos patches and patches for the Hx3 work independently when I put the Kronos on midi ch 9 by the way the Hx3 is set on 9 also it only has 10 midi ch. and play Kronos patches the Kronos sound is present along with the Hx3 sounds. Also program changes work. When I change the Kronos to midi channel 1 when I run the Hx3 on ch 9 it works you dont hear the kronos patches. They work independently but the Kronos doesn't send the program changes. I guess I want the best of both worlds.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:24 am

jerrymac50 wrote:I've never hooked all three together. It was never needed. I use my Xk1 as a controller and when I hit presets on the XK1 it changes the Hx3 perfectly. Now I want to use the Kronos only as a controller only and take advantage of the kronos also. I want to have a set list with kronos patches and patches for the Hx3 work independently when I put the Kronos on midi ch 9 by the way the Hx3 is set on 9 also it only has 10 midi ch. and play Kronos patches the Kronos sound is present along with the Hx3 sounds. Also program changes work. When I change the Kronos to midi channel 1 when I run the Hx3 on ch 9 it works you dont hear the kronos patches. They work independently but the Kronos doesn't send the program changes. I guess I want the best of both worlds.

When you say:
"Now I want to use the Kronos only as a controller only and take advantage of the kronos also"
what specifically do you mean?

jerrymac50 · Post by **jerrymac50** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:55 am

Sorry I didn't word that correctly. What I meant to say, I want to use the Kronos as the main controller for the Hx3 and use the kronos sounds too. Put away the Xk1 and only carry one keyboard. Does that sound right.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:40 am

OK. You should use combination mode. It will give you many options. You can assign the channel for the HX and the Kronos separately. You do not need to change the MIDI channel in Global mode (if that is what you are doing). It can all be done in the Combi. Go back and read my earlier posts in this thread.

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