Now that the ES2 is out; where's the E2 firmware update.

[Ted3000]

So much fail.

Yeah! So much fail!

Dutchcow designed, programmed, produced and marketed a groove box of his own. It's called the Cowtribe, and man, it does everything! Blows the e2 out of the water. There are no bugs, no missing features, and it makes everyone 100% happy all the time. No complaints form anyone, ever! And it's even cheaper than the e2.

I bought a hammer the other day, It bent when I tried to use it as a crowbar. So I've been standing in front of the store all week, trash-talking the hammer. Fools! Can they not see?

[blackholesun]

Don't have a Cow(tribe) man!

[dutchcow]

Ted, I know you're just a troll but why not read my arguments and retort to those instead. All I see you do is attack people on a personal level, ad hominem. Very weak.

[thebiglebowski]

Ted, I know you're just a troll but why not read my arguments and retort to those instead. All I see you do is attack people on a personal level, ad hominem. Very weak.

Ted a troll? Well that makes you an uber-troll.
You're on this anti-Korg vendetta for months now, even after you returned your Electribe and got your money back.

Guess what - no one listens and no one cares. Just STFU and stop trolling every single topic on this board with your rants. Don't you have anything better to do? Maybe you should use that time and engergy to enlighten us all with your great music done on „professional” instruments. Yeah dude, show us how its done…

[thebiglebowski]

Ted, I know you're just a troll but why not read my arguments and retort to those instead. All I see you do is attack people on a personal level, ad hominem. Very weak.

And BTW, there is no way to rationally reply to your arguments, because we heard them already like a 100 times, you sound like a broken record at this point.
Many people responded to your rants with good, logical and POLITE comments, you never cared to adress them - instead you've ignored them conviniently.
So stop giving us that smartass „ad hominem” BS...

[Tarekith]

Just ignore the trolls, it's the best thing you can do. Eventually when they stop getting a rise out of people they'll go away. All they want is the attention from getting people worked up, don't give them that and there's nothing left for them here. Happens on all forums.

[wasstof]

Just ignore the trolls, it's the best thing you can do. Eventually when they stop getting a rise out of people they'll go away. All they want is the attention from getting people worked up, don't give them that and there's nothing left for them here. Happens on all forums.

Yeah! What Tarekith said!...
A couple of these threads have descended into Extremely Vehement slanging matches with threats of violence(!!!!!), I know that some people hold some strong views about the New electribes but it would be much more constructive(though less entertaining) if those individuals spent their time creating music on their e'tribes rather than abusing each other!.....
Oh, hang on, half of those people have either sold them or not bought one in the first place!
Running for Cover now!

[wasstof]

But where IS the firmware update????
Anyone?!

[apapdop]

A few years ago I decided to treat myself to a new bike. I did my research, read the reviews, compared specs etc and made my final decision. The local bike shop let me go for a test ride on the bike of my choice, which was from a well known manufacturer and was tremendous value for money. It seemed to ride fairly well for the short duration of the test ride, so I handed over my money and peddled off home, very excited with my new purchase. But over the next two years... I just couldn't get on with it. I tried and tried to narrow down the reason why I wasn't enjoying it as much as I thought I should be. It was, on paper, a much better bike than my old one. But the new one spent more and more time in the shed, unused, whilst my crappy old one was racking up the miles. In the end, I decided to sell the new one to a friend at just under half of what I paid for it new. The friend is delighted with it and I treated my old bike to a new set of wheels.

That is the end of the story.

[stlkr]

if they could optimize the code, the dsp would work better.
delay eats up polyphony...

[thesigma]

Just ignore the trolls, it's the best thing you can do. Eventually when they stop getting a rise out of people they'll go away. All they want is the attention from getting people worked up, don't give them that and there's nothing left for them here. Happens on all forums.

Yeah! What Tarekith said!...
A couple of these threads have descended into Extremely Vehement slanging matches with threats of violence(!!!!!), I know that some people hold some strong views about the New electribes but it would be much more constructive(though less entertaining) if those individuals spent their time creating music on their e'tribes rather than abusing each other!.....
Oh, hang on, half of those people have either sold them or not bought one in the first place!
Running for Cover now!

Agreed. However I'll just add that I have given my fair bit of criticism of the new tribes but some people seem to forget this forum is for all the electribes, just because some of us have not bought the new ones, doesn't mean we don't belong here or our opinions don't matter.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled troll vs fanboy flame wars...

[scum]

A few years ago I decided to treat myself to a new bike. I did my research, read the reviews, compared specs etc and made my final decision. The local bike shop let me go for a test ride on the bike of my choice, which was from a well known manufacturer and was tremendous value for money. It seemed to ride fairly well for the short duration of the test ride, so I handed over my money and peddled off home, very excited with my new purchase. But over the next two years... I just couldn't get on with it. I tried and tried to narrow down the reason why I wasn't enjoying it as much as I thought I should be. It was, on paper, a much better bike than my old one. But the new one spent more and more time in the shed, unused, whilst my crappy old one was racking up the miles. In the end, I decided to sell the new one to a friend at just under half of what I paid for it new. The friend is delighted with it and I treated my old bike to a new set of wheels.

That is the end of the story.

Yes, do you know why - because it was another bike. Buy a new AUDI and you will love the A/C, the speed, the stereo and the chicks..But this would be fine only for electribes or bikes, because i was thinking that i am getting the audi, but with my old boss/roland and alesis bikes i can switch the patterns and even arrange a song, and with my new korg audi i can not..

[dutchcow]

My points still stand, and attacking people personally is always a sign of weakness. Some people here do nothing but. Ignore arguments and then attack a person. Ad hominem.

My points are valid and if you don't like reading it then don't read it. I will keep posting my opinion and say the E2 is a crippled and unfinished product. Try to prove me wrong instead. Oh wait, the arguments don't hold.

Why have 16 parts if you can't even use 8 without running in to voice stealing?

Why can you only control one parameter of an effect and how useful is it to be able to control the timing of a delay but not the amount of feedback?

Why do lots of people run into pops and clicks? Surely they can't all be using the box wrong.

The list goes on and on, and in the meantime all you fanboys are still stuck on v1.03 with no fixes in sight.

By the time Korg releases a new firmware I can pickup 2 E2's for the price of one cuz everybody will be selling theirs

[apapdop]

A few years ago I decided to treat myself to a new bike. I did my research, read the reviews, compared specs etc and made my final decision. The local bike shop let me go for a test ride on the bike of my choice, which was from a well known manufacturer and was tremendous value for money. It seemed to ride fairly well for the short duration of the test ride, so I handed over my money and peddled off home, very excited with my new purchase. But over the next two years... I just couldn't get on with it. I tried and tried to narrow down the reason why I wasn't enjoying it as much as I thought I should be. It was, on paper, a much better bike than my old one. But the new one spent more and more time in the shed, unused, whilst my crappy old one was racking up the miles. In the end, I decided to sell the new one to a friend at just under half of what I paid for it new. The friend is delighted with it and I treated my old bike to a new set of wheels.

That is the end of the story.

Yes, do you know why - because it was another bike. Buy a new AUDI and you will love the A/C, the speed, the stereo and the chicks..But this would be fine only for electribes or bikes, because i was thinking that i am getting the audi, but with my old boss/roland and alesis bikes i can switch the patterns and even arrange a song, and with my new korg audi i can not..

Sorry, my point is that after selling the greatly anticipated new bike, buying the new wheels etc, at no point did i feel the need to hang around the bike manufacturers forum for months AFTER the event in order to snipe about the bike and the manufacturer, purely because how that manufacturer decided to design, build and equip that bike resulted in a product that i wasn't 100% satisfied with.

But then again, people spend their time in whatever way they please and i should respect that.

[apapdop]

My points still stand, and attacking people personally is always a sign of weakness. Some people here do nothing but. Ignore arguments and then attack a person. Ad hominem.

My points are valid and if you don't like reading it then don't read it. I will keep posting my opinion and say the E2 is a crippled and unfinished product. Try to prove me wrong instead. Oh wait, the arguments don't hold.

Why have 16 parts if you can't even use 8 without running in to voice stealing?

Why can you only control one parameter of an effect and how useful is it to be able to control the timing of a delay but not the amount of feedback?

Why do lots of people run into pops and clicks? Surely they can't all be using the box wrong.

The list goes on and on, and in the meantime all you fanboys are still stuck on v1.03 with no fixes in sight.

By the time Korg releases a new firmware I can pickup 2 E2's for the price of one cuz everybody will be selling theirs

I remember reading an interview with Fatboy Slim a few years ago, where he described his favourite compressor of all time. It just had the one knob on it, labeled "More".

It's just the way i make music, but i never have 16 parts playing all at once. If i play back a pattern with all 16 parts unmuted, it sounds dreadful. But i can have 8 parts running at once without voice stealing. And yep, it would be great if 16 parts meant 16 parts no matter what the oscillators/filters/fx are set to.

If i have, say, a kick drum part set to mono and i hammer away at its pad, yep it clicks and pops. If i then set that part to poly and do the same, the clicks and pops go away.

But this is all academic. Your constant reference to the term "fanboy", that is a kind of lightly disguised derogatory term yes? Kind of a school playground, name calling thing? And i may be wrong, but in the context of your comments on this forum, a fanboy is somebody who is happy with their Grey Electribe, who enjoys making music with it despite of all it's shortcomings and design choices. So are you saying that all us fanboys are somehow, deluded, misguided and downright gullible for feeling the way we feel about our Grey Electribes?

By the way, you once posted a recommendation for a Kensington Laptop stand for use with Electribes. It is brilliant and my neck thanks you, it works really well with all my Electribes. And i remember liking your demo track which you made with your Grey Electribe whilst you were still happy with it and before you knackered it and sent it back.