How to add a program using samples from a PCG into my bank?

[ffx]

Hi,

I would like to "import" a program that uses samples to my bank. AlsoI want to import the used samples to another slot than in the original PCG.

What's the best approach here?

I open the PCG, load the desired prog to a place I want it... And then? How to load a sample out of a PCG?

Thanks for help.

[Bald Eagle]

PCG files don't have samples in them. Samples are in other files so you have to load them first. They just get loaded to the next available slot and you don't have any other control over that.

After you load the sample you can load the program from the PCG into any available program slot but you will have to update the program to point to the correct sample.

After you get things imported and organized you will want to resave all samples and PCG data together. Then you can reload it all together the next time without having to worry about what slots things are loaded into.

[ffx]

Yes thanks I know that pcg has no samples inside.

This problem is that I also want to import a sampled drumset... Now I have to save every sample of that drumset manually??!? And then rebuild the drumset keys? Jesus....

Isn't there any tool for that? Or should I use the vst? But it cannot save the samples, right?

I am looking for a fast and uncomplicated way for this.

Thanks.

EDIT:

Maybe I can just load the prog from the pcg to my bank and copy the Ksc files etc. manually to the directory of my bank? I could use the vst to get a sample list of the drumset.

[Bald Eagle]

I don't use the vst so I can't help you there. But I would just set up the M3 the way you want it and then take a snapshot using Save All. It saves everything including all samples. You just do that once for each configuration you need and reload the whole thing when needed.

File management is a pain but not so bad when you get used to it. There really is no easier way to do it on the M3.

[HardSync]

Try looking into the Load PCG (RAM) and Samples command in Media mode. You can choose where to put the program, etc. It's quite handy, and I've used it a number of time to make custom sample/program sets. Pp 426-427 of the Parameter Guide.

[ffx]

Try looking into the Load PCG (RAM) and Samples command in Media mode. You can choose where to put the program, etc. It's quite handy, and I've used it a number of time to make custom sample/program sets. Pp 426-427 of the Parameter Guide.

Hardsync, thanks, but this only works for programs, not for drumsets

I mean there simply is no remapping of drumsample maps!!! WTF!

Is there a possiblity to get a key->sample-list of a drummap, so I can better remap by myself?

The M3 editor also gets no sample names, they just are named "sample XXX"...

Did Korg forgot a drummap remapping?

[HardSync]

Hardsync, thanks, but this only works for programs, not for drumsets

The Parameter Guide disagrees with you. It says:

Content that will be loaded from the .PCG file
1. Drum Kit: Drum kits for which at least one KEY is set
to RAM in “Drumsample DS1, 2, 3, 4 Bank” (Global 5–
1b).

Is there a possiblity to get a key->sample-list of a drummap, so I can better remap by myself?

I'm not sure what you're asking here, because I don't know which drum maps you speak of. Internal drum kit key maps? Those are in the M3_XPanded_Voice_Name_List.pdf. Handy and extremely useful reference if you're doing custom drum kits with RAM samples. I don't use the editor, so can't comment on that. Apart from that, it's quite feasible to remap drum kit key assignments in Global mode. I've done this extensively with both RAM and internal samples, and it was time consuming but hardly difficult. I really don't understand what issues you're having, though.

[ffx]

I have a complete setup with custom samples. Now I want to "import" another drumset from another PCG, that uses other samples.

If I load the PCG using "append samples" or using "load pcg(ram) and samples", it will remap the samples of programs, but not the mapping of the new drumsets that you can edit in global mode.

[HardSync]

Re-read the instructions in the parameter guide and use the Append to Drumkit option.

The guide clearly states:

Numbers that will be reassigned after loading so
that data references correspond correctly:
• RAM sample numbers used by multisamples
• RAM sample numbers used by drum kits
• RAM multisample numbers used by programs
• Drum kit numbers used by programs
• Program banks/numbers used by combinations
• Program banks/numbers used by songs (if there are
pattern events in a track, the program bank/number
within the event)

and

7. Use “Append to: Drum Kit” to specify the loading-destination
number for the drum kits in the .PCG file.
When you execute, only the applicable drum kits will be
loaded into consecutive numbers starting at the number you
specify here.

[ffx]

and

7. Use “Append to: Drum Kit” to specify the loading-destination
number for the drum kits in the .PCG file.
When you execute, only the applicable drum kits will be
loaded into consecutive numbers starting at the number you
specify here.

Yes exactly. And where is written "Remap drumkit samples"? It just appends the drumkit settings, but it does not remap the samples used by the drumkit.

E.g. my initial setup already uses samples 1-100. The second PCG has a drumkit that uses e.g. samples 90-120.

Now Appending drumkit, no other drumkit will be overwritten. Ok. But the mapping of the new drumkit still is 90-120. And not 101-201 like the samples were appended.

[HardSync]

And where is written "Remap drumkit samples"?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe in the first quoted section I put up where it said:

• RAM sample numbers used by drum kits

If you still can't figure out how this works, then take your second drum kit set and manually remap the samples in global mode so they don't conflict. Save it as a PCG all by itself, and then you can load it in with your first drum kit. But really, short of me flying over to Germany to hold your hand through the process, I really don't know what to say to help you understand this any better.

[ffx]

Ok here is a guide how to import selected drumkits and/or programs that use custom samples (that conflict with your sample mapping):

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?p=582398