Could Kronos have the Krome sequencer features

[KorgisKing]

From the looks of the Krome I would think that Korg would give the Kronos the sequencer features/enhancments that i seen n the Krome that would b awesome. Could Kronos have the Krome sequencer features?

[rob314159]

From the looks of the Krome I would think that Korg would give the Kronos the sequencer features/enhancments that i seen n the Krome that would b awesome. Could Kronos have the Krome sequencer features?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer - it's unclear how transferrable the user interface developed for M3/M50/Krome is to Kronos. Kronos is derived from OASYS, and while Krome may use data from Kronos, it may have more in common with M3/M50.

You would think if it was easy, it would've already been done.

[KorgisKing]

Danatkorg is this an easy fix or not & if so then why not it would help us a lot 2 have those simple enhancements.

[blinkofanI]

I don't think we'll get the sequencer features, honestly. What would be great, though, would be to have the great new Electric Guitar library they made for the Krome, as stated on Korg's web site. THAT would be cool....

Blink

[cello]

Not going to happen.

OASYS came out in 2005. M3 in 2007 with better sequencer. OASYS discontinued in late 2009 with no sequencer update despite many howls of requests (and remember this was an $8,000 investment from new - plus the cost of the engines which the kronos bundled together).

2011 Kronos released with the same OASYS seq (with increased ppq but still a 6 year old seq) even although the better M3 seq existed for 4 years before.

Krome released - has m3 seq.

Story doesn't get any more basic than that.

Kronos will not get an updated seq - don't know why but if Korg could have done it, they would have done it for the OASYS and after all they knew their own game plan - ie to replace the OASYS with a cheaper version, so had they built a better one for the OASYS, the kronos would have that better seq.

[tjdeerinck]

The Kronos is software, plain and simple. I would say the Krome OS is based on Linux as is Kronos. That being said, integrating the sequencer functions into Kronos would not be as hard as one would think. It will all boil down to sales. IMHO, Korg could kick start sales of the Kronos to a higher level by simply adding feature sets, like the sequencer update, etc. It makes sense to do this......abandoning the user base of a high end workstation to bring out a new line does not make people who invest in such things happy. If you keep the existing base happy, and upgrade feature via software updates, you build a much broader client base and loyal customers who stay happy.

I see Krome as something not even close to attempting to competing with Kronos, but more of an entry level workstation.

Would love to hear Korg chime in on this........

Regards,

~TJ

[GregC]

The Kronos is software, plain and simple. I would say the Krome OS is based on Linux as is Kronos. That being said, integrating the sequencer functions into Kronos would not be as hard as one would think. It will all boil down to sales. IMHO, Korg could kick start sales of the Kronos to a higher level by simply adding feature sets, like the sequencer update, etc. It makes sense to do this......abandoning the user base of a high end workstation to bring out a new line does not make people who invest in such things happy. If you keep the existing base happy, and upgrade feature via software updates, you build a much broader client base and loyal customers who stay happy.

I see Krome as something not even close to attempting to competing with Kronos, but more of an entry level workstation.

Would love to hear Korg chime in on this........

Regards,

~TJ

Korg like many other MI companies do not make ' future announcements '.

There are business reasons for doing so.

I agree with Cello. Don't have expectations , esp when history is compelling( Oasys, Kronos, etc)

[Davidb]

Could Kronos have the Krome sequencer features?

Short answer: Yes.

Exactly: Yes.

As an example, the M3 did not have those Sequencer features similar to the Krome, and Korg included them as an upgrade with OS 2.0, called Xpanded.

Thats the evidence it *could be done* if Korg wanted to.

Cant it be done on M3, developing them from the scratch?
So it can be done for the OASYS and Kronos too.

Korg said then they would not do that for the OASYS as it would not be continuing developing it.

... So now, whats the excuse for not including all that demanded stuff in Kronos, the current production model and now curretly in developing/upgrading cycle, and instead of that, do so in a model which 1/3 of Kronos price, less equiped and featured?

Short answer as well: They simply dont want to.

Long answer - it's unclear how transferrable the user interface developed for M3/M50/Krome is to Kronos. Kronos is derived from OASYS, and while Krome may use data from Kronos, it may have more in common with M3/M50.

I´m not agree here, sorry.

Partly following the indisputable argument given lines above (those features were not present when the M3 product was lauched, but added later on), and also because If you are familiar with those Sequencer features, Piano roll, Velocity meters and Cue list (And if not, you can see the videos posted from Krome and also from the M3), there are specific buttons to operate them and there is no need for a capacitive screen to use them or even any other UI impediment to prevent its implementation.

So thats not an excuse either.

[KorgisKing]

At this point it would only make sense if Korg would if it is as simple as some say 2 give the Kronos these simple enhancements otherwise that Krome interface is like a slap in the face 2 Kronos owners. I also notice there's some trying 2 counter what many r saying here. It's a pattern I've notice on this forum. It's like they r not just Kronos owners but working against us Kronos owners. Notice everytime someone suggest or has a question about simple improvements 2 the Kronos they immediately say ur whining or they say go buy another synth or use ur computer sequencer or musician dont use sequencers anymore or go buy more. I myself 4 now on will only post constructive post & questions about the Kronos 2 hopefully get Korg 2 realize they have loyal customers here Apple noticed this with there customers & look what happened.Thanks 2 all u guys helping make the Kronos the best it can b.

[jeebustrain]

At this point it would only make sense if Korg would if it is as simple as some say 2 give the Kronos these simple enhancements otherwise that Krome interface is like a slap in the face 2 Kronos owners. I also notice there's some trying 2 counter what many r saying here. It's a pattern I've notice on this forum. It's like they r not just Kronos owners but working against us Kronos owners. Notice everytime someone suggest or has a question about simple improvements 2 the Kronos they immediately say ur whining or they say go buy another synth or use ur computer sequencer or musician dont use sequencers anymore or go buy more. I myself 4 now on will only post constructive post & questions about the Kronos 2 hopefully get Korg 2 realize they have loyal customers here Apple noticed this with there customers & look what happened.Thanks 2 all u guys helping make the Kronos the best it can b don't let anyone stop u.

No offense, but is english your second language? Or are you posting from a flip phone or something? I've read this (and a lot of your other posts) at least 2 times and I'm still having trouble deciphering it.

[KorgisKing]

jeebustrain nothing anyone says offends me personally the topic is
Could Kronos have the Krome sequencer features
Hey everyone take notice of the counters 4 now on

[midinut]

I try my best to make it a policy to make major purchases such as the Kronos based on "will it do what I need it to do now?", not basing these decisions on "what it might be able to do for me later." But your mileage may vary. The Kronos is way more than I thought and probably more than I need, but I love it regardless. I bought an M3 right about the same time that the Xpanded version was announced. I bought used and based my decision on what it would do for me then. Yes I was pleasantly surprised (and thankful) for the Xpanded offerings, but would still have been happy if it had never happened. I use Cubase at home for recording. Therefore, sequencer improvements are not something I really care about. The editor I still have high hopes for so I can integrate my Kronos into Cubase and use it like a VST.

To put this another way entirely ... Let's say you were thinking about buying a Receptor so you could play VSTs live instead of using a laptop. Hopefully you would buy based on what VSTs are known and approved to run on it and not on the ones you would like for it to run or someone had promised the next upgrade would fix.

[Saxifraga]

I try my best to make it a policy to make major .. bla bla ..

To put this another way entirely ... Let's say you were thinking about buying a Receptor so you could play VSTs live instead of using a laptop. Hopefully you would buy based on what VSTs are known and approved to run on it and not on the ones you would like for it to run or someone had promised the next upgrade would fix.

Why are you posting excuses. Why writing at all if you think the world and Korg are ok?

Fact is this is a mayor let down. In fact I will never ever buy Korg gear again if they don´t come up with a software update. I spent 3.600,- and now get the boot? This "hardware" is mostly software. It´s a linux system that can be updated in a few minutes to a totally different OS if someone would invest some time into programming it. So don´t excuse them for being lazy. I think they need a new product manager. They totally annoyed "us" with a crappy editor/librarian and an old Triton OS.

I think they lost themselves in spaghetti code.

[AnthonyB]

. Notice everytime someone suggest or has a question about simple improvements 2 the Kronos they immediately say ur whining .

Simply put but true. My KRONOS 88 came today (brand new ) and wouldn't consider it "whining" or "moaning" if i mentioned the new sequencer features on the KROME that "Should" (IMO) be on the KRONOS - in the near future at least. I won't go on and on and on about it though, but just keep with the "flow" on posters/kronos users who wish for an updated sequencer. Makes you wonder if KORG will one day get fed up of hearing us - and just give it to us !


Tony

[Jakker27]

I don't know if it's possible but what I do know is that, they won't undermime the Krome by doing anything in the immediate future but I think if you bring that quality to more and more people, it makes sense to impliment it higher up the chain because when it comes to buying a more expensive workstation, familiarity with regards the sequencer (if it's good) is a massive selling point.