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newkorgguy
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MIDI to another Keyboard

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Hi

I want to be able to play complete performance UP1 UP2 and UP3 on keyboard connected via MIDI, but i want to have whole 5 octaves available to do that.

There r couple of setups under GLOBAL/MIDI and looks like that Accordion1 setup works fine, but i still get midi keyboard SPLIT with arranger on left side.

Is it possible to set it the way i need it? and then save it in global .

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Re: MIDI to another Keyboard

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Hi,
don't quite know if I understand, but have you thought of moving your split point right down to the other end?
newkorgguy wrote:Hi

I want to be able to play complete performance UP1 UP2 and UP3 on keyboard connected via MIDI, but i want to have whole 5 octaves available to do that.

There r couple of setups under GLOBAL/MIDI and looks like that Accordion1 setup works fine, but i still get midi keyboard SPLIT with arranger on left side.

Is it possible to set it the way i need it? and then save it in global .

Thank you
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Post by newkorgguy »

hm,..... if i move split it will split PA2 as well,...

i simply want to play PA2 sound on MIDI keyboard on all 5 octaves - i dont need arranger part on MIDI keyboard
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Post by miden »

Yes you can do this quite easily.

Create your own MIDI custom setup, whereby you have filters on all but the channels want to send to the PA.

GO to Global - Midi - choose one of the slots, go to the MIDI IN CHANNEL tab(along the bottom) , and using the drop-down menu (tap the small arrow) simply set what input channel from your external keyboard you want to play any component you like!!

Save it (top right corner -drop down menu) and that's it...That configuration is now saved.

Make sure the Split button (top right of the keyboard next to the ACCOMPANIMENT buttons) which means it is in full keyboard mode.

If you want to have no split point at boot, save this setting to Performance 1, Bank 1 and this is how it will load every time.

Further, if you do not want the split to be changed by styles, also lock the split in the Global Lock settings - make sure you re-save the global settings to store it.
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Post by newkorgguy »

i will try that, thank you!!!

but i will still be able to use my pa2 regular, with arranger part and split points?
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Hm,... ya, i did try that but i am not able to play whole performance UP1+UP2+UP3 on channel 1,... looks like that this is impossible what i need
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Post by miden »

Hmmm..well your original question was not really asking that.....If I might make a suggestion -when you ask for help please specify EXACTLY what you are trying to achieve!!!!

So you want to have access to 5 octaves of the external keyboard playing ONLY the upper 1,2,3 parts....but you STILL want to run the arranger?

Is that correct?

In that case, and I assume you have a 76 note PA2x...you can set the split point to G2, lock it save that to performance 1, bank 1...and then make sure the split lock in Global is also set.

That will then give you 5 octaves of free keyboard, and keep the bottom octave +2 semi's( or 14 keys altogether ;) ) for chord play.

If you are using an 88 note external controller, you can set the same split, but as the 88 has more notes at the bottom you could get a full two octaves of arranger control and still have five octaves of "play" space.
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Re: MIDI to another Keyboard

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newkorgguy wrote:Hi

I want to be able to play complete performance UP1 UP2 and UP3 on keyboard connected via MIDI, but i want to have whole 5 octaves available to do that.
Lol i it misunderstanding,... my 1st post, 1st sentence is mentioning what i want :)

And 2nd i mentioned that chords were bothering me with current setups :)

Simply - I want to sent UP1-3 (or selected performance) on MIDI keyboard and need those on all keys , while PA2 is intact in split zones,.. :)
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newkorgguy wrote:Hm,... ya, i did try that but i am not able to play whole performance UP1+UP2+UP3 on channel 1,... looks like that this is impossible what i need
Why do you want to play ALL three parts over channel 1? Does your external keyboard only transmit on channel 1?

You see you really need to give FULL information to get the correct setup procedure...you can play all three upper parts from an external keyboard, but you do need the external keyboard to transmit on all channels.

My guess is your external k'b is pretty old and con ONLY do one channel. Most new spec controllers/keyboards can do multi-channel
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Re: MIDI to another Keyboard

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newkorgguy wrote:
newkorgguy wrote:Hi

I want to be able to play complete performance UP1 UP2 and UP3 on keyboard connected via MIDI, but i want to have whole 5 octaves available to do that.
Lol i it misunderstanding,... my 1st post, 1st sentence is mentioning what i want :)

And 2nd i mentioned that chords were bothering me with current setups :)

Simply - I want to sent UP1-3 (or selected performance) on MIDI keyboard and need those on all keys , while PA2 is intact in split zones,.. :)
Exactly - you said there that you did NOT want arranger parts and I quote :

i simply want to play PA2 sound on MIDI keyboard on all 5 octaves - i dont need arranger part on MIDI keyboard

Which means my original reply works...then you reply back saying you DO want to still use arranger functions????

Make up your mind!!!!
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Post by miden »

Simply - I want to sent UP1-3 (or selected performance) on MIDI keyboard and need those on all keys , while PA2 is intact in split zones,..

If I now understand you properly - no this is not possible as you are still using the same sound engine.

As I said you can "work-around" it by adopting a smaller chord recognition area, but you cannot get the PA using the "normal" split of C4 and still access a full 5 octaves of "free" keyboard.

In any case, as it seems your external keyboard cannot transmit on more than one channel, the whole thing is moot really...if so all you can access at any one time is EITHER up1, OR up2, OR up3, and even this would require presetting the global prior to each time..

I have never used it in accordion mode, so I am not sure what these presets do...you might want to read the manual re the accordion setups and how it affects the whole keyboard.
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Post by Nenos »

Hi!

The thing is that, if you want to play UP1, UP2 and UP3 with the midi-keyboard then you'r not doing anything special since your pa2x is already filling that function so practically it's impossible. However,you can assign channel 1 in "general->midi->midi-in" to either play UP1, UP2 or UP3, in this case lets assume you have assigned it to UP3, and you have Strings performance, change the sound of the "UP3 -> Accordion", Now you will have your midi-keyboard playing accordion sound while your pa2 is still playing strings.
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