Kronos feedback.

[McHale]

No one is "whining". I am simply correcting an outrageously wrong assertion by Reggmail.

...wasn't really directed at you.

But whining or not (it's whining... and tiring) it's clearly off topic and has basically ruined another thread. We're here to talk about the Kronos, not listen to OASYS owners bitch about how shafted they feel.

Once my Kronos comes in, I should post in EVERY freaking OASYS thread how awesome the Kronos is and how all OASYS owners are a bunch of suckers. You let me know at what point that gets annoying. THEN I'll keep doing it over and over and over. See my point?

[ozy]

Once my Kronos comes in, I should post in EVERY freaking OASYS thread how awesome the Kronos is and how all OASYS owners are a bunch of suckers

cool!

I thought those quarrels were just knee-jerk reactions.

Now I see they are carefully programmed war missions.

I am fascinated.

[Reggmail]

Your suggest has been denied.

You made the following statement:
"most are complaining about the lack of support sense it's release"

1) The word "MOST" implies a majority.
Since there were over 3,000 OASYS keyboards manufactured, "most" would imply a number greater than 1,500.

2) "Since its release" means just that -- starting when the keyboard was first released (April 2005)

So far you have only referenced a few threads which DEFINITELY DO NOT REPRESENT 1,500 owners. Let's say there were 100 different OASYS owners represented in those threads.

Where are the posts from the other 1,400 owners needed to support your claim of "most OASYS owners"?

Also, how can you claim people were complaining about OASYS support since its release? The OASYS was released in 2005. The handful of threads you referenced (your "research") were all created in 2008 and 2009, YEARS AFTER THE OASYS WAS RELEASED.

Where are all the posts from OASYS owners complaining about support starting in 2005?

Now, combine BOTH parts of your assertion -- MOST OASYS OWNERS COMPLAINING STARTING IN 2005, and your "research" totally falls apart.

There WERE many people who were disappointed with the early stoppage of OASYS development. There even may have been a few owners who were disappointed with the pace of OASYS development while it was ongoing. However, to make a claim that "MOST OASYS owners were complaining about OASYS development SINCE ITS RELEASE" is simply stupid and wrong.

I think that to not take into account on what I said in my reply to you and continue to base this on all Oasys owners as oppose to what I said should have been a given that all means all who was complaining sends your whole assessment off course.

Answer to your 1st question.
Remember, start with only the people who have complained.
As I said and apologized on what I thought should have been a given.
My political correctness should have said (Most People who complained)
And from my own personal experience with Korg corporation.


Answer to your 2nd question.
Are people not complaining now on about the Kronos not having tilt screen so on and so forth before it's release? (some complaints -request will never be implemented even after it's release. On the Oasys the same, I can pull up many post of complaints, but out of respect and request, I will spare people who don't want to see this on this forum, unless I'm provoked...Lol

As I said before and I will retort again (Only count the ones that complained (Who still represents many that don't post) the percentage of the complaining customers. Stop counting in the (most) ones that didn't, again ONLY MOST OF THE % THAT DID COMPLANE.

Than get back to me on the Oasys forum so McHale could be happy.

No one is "whining". I am simply correcting an outrageously wrong assertion by Reggmail.

...wasn't really directed at you.

But whining or not (it's whining... and tiring) it's clearly off topic and has basically ruined another thread. We're here to talk about the Kronos, not listen to OASYS owners bitch about how shafted they feel.

Once my Kronos comes in, I should post in EVERY freaking OASYS thread how awesome the Kronos is and how all OASYS owners are a bunch of suckers. You let me know at what point that gets annoying. THEN I'll keep doing it over and over and over. See my point?

What do (.....wasn't really directed at you) to MartinHines mean? Are we not both responding to each other about the Oasys? Feel free to respond on the Oasys thread....Lol.

Once my Kronos comes in, I should post in EVERY freaking OASYS thread how awesome the Kronos is and how all OASYS owners are a bunch of suckers

Funny Yo, no problem by me, but be ready for a whole thread from passionate Oasys owners like MartinHines coming for ya....Lol

[ cool!
I thought those quarrels were just knee-jerk reactions.
Now I see they are carefully programmed war missions.
I am fascinated.

I like your perspective brother Ozy, actually I don't believe that Martinhines opinions as well as my own really mean Sh*t much to most people.
Peace & blessings.

[McHale]

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Take it to the OASYS area. Nobody in this thread gives a crap.

[Reggmail]

MartinHines if you've like to continue this debate, please lets take it to the Oasys thread of your choice.
PM me when you do so that I may respond.
That way, there will not be any more baby's born on this thread by the thread police who speaks for everyone...Lol.
Opps...wrong thread again..Lol
Peace & blessings.

[MartinHines]

MartinHines if you've like to continue this debate, please lets take it to the Oasys thread of your choice.
PM me when you do so that I may respond.

There is no need to continue our debate. I challenged one specific statement of yours (claiming "most OASYS users were complaining about support from the time the product was shipped"and you refuse to admit you were wrong. Additional discussion would be worthless and a waste of my time. I've wasted too much time already.

[Reggmail]

MartinHines if you've like to continue this debate, please lets take it to the Oasys thread of your choice.
PM me when you do so that I may respond.

There is no need to continue our debate. I challenged one specific statement of yours (claiming "most OASYS users were complaining about support from the time the product was shipped"and you refuse to admit you were wrong. Additional discussion would be worthless and a waste of my time. I've wasted too much time already.

Actually you challenged two of my statements, but who's counting...Lol

As I can see, it appears that you have your head stuck in the mud.
I explained my previous original statement to you a few times and you refuse to acknowledge it.
MartinHines thanks for the debate though. I guess it will remain a difference in opinion.
However you 'ed like, feel free to PM me for further discussion on this topic.

Shortly after it's release.....much more info available.
Korg Oasys Problem video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e04uar0130M

Interesting thread.
http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment- ... ll-144036/

OASYS 88 - Keys sound as if they are breaking after 2 months (This was a hardware problem)
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ht=springs
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... gs&start=0

( SOS revue,) I would hope that some thing's where implemented in later updates.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov05/a ... goasys.htm
However... much less impressive are the obvious multisample points on many of the sounds. To demonstrate this to yourself, select patch INTA024: 'Pipe Organ Mixture' or INTA032: 'Clav1/Mure Sw1', and play middle 'C'. Now play the 'B' a semitone below it. As you will hear on both Programs, the timbres change considerably. If you want to shock yourself, isolate multisample 0072: 'Pipe Organ Mixture2' in the former Program. Alternatively, play A4 and A#4 using 0116: 'Tin Whistle' — the two notes sound as if they come from two different types of instrument.

To be fair, generating large libraries of multisamples is difficult, and there are many examples of other manufacturers' instruments that suffer from the same problems. The silver lining here is that, because they are disk-based, the OASYS's sample sets can be replaced by improved versions. I hope that Korg will consider doing so.
Another criticism concerns Korg's misleading claims that the oscillators (and I quote from the brochure) "support four-way layering, switching and crossfading". This is not true. While you can load up to four samples in a single oscillator, you can't layer them four deep; only two can sound at any given moment. On a more positive note, the mechanism for inserting samples and crossfading or layering them and the way that these operations are represented on the touchscreen are object lessons for other designers.
Peace & blessings.

[MartinHines]

As I can see, it appears that you have your head stuck in the mud.

Reggmail,

Given I was one of the first OASYS owners in the world (OASYS 88 #30), I am more aware of ALL OASYS discussion (good and bad) than you could ever hope to be. You may have browsed a few forum threads, but I have been posting continually about the OASYS since its original announcement in January of 2005. I have probably made over 1,000 posts about the OASYS, and have probably read at least 10,000 posts about the OASYS.

The only thing "I acknowledge" is your ignorance about this subject, and your refusal to accept the fact that your opinion was completely wrong.

Regardless of how many threads you reference, the truth is that most OASYS owners were satisfied with the OASYS and OASYS development, up until the time OASYS development ceased.

Have a nice day. I am done talking with you about it. I might as well be talking to a rock.

[McHale]

Martin,

Reggmail is nothing but a troll. Just ignore him for the good of the forum, seriously.

[Reggmail]

Have a nice day. I am done talking with you about it. I might as well be talking to a rock.

I don't care about how many post you posted or read on the subject, I have also read and researched many as well and read many of your rebuttals to some who had an issue with your precious Oasys.

Lets face it, some people who buy a product or who paid as much as you did for that product (Oasys) are very passionate and do not want to see any complaints about something you invested so much in. (Not saying that it wasn't a good keyboard) but mostly all products has its short falls and the Oasys was no exception.

With that being said......Yes I am a ''Rock'' who stands by it's statement ( the many who Complained, again the ones who complained, one more time now ''the ones who complained'' I hope you will one day understand this.
Along with my own (Who also wrote many post ) and personal dealings with Korg and their lack of support, during and after a year of a popular product release, did produce many unhappy campers.
Enough said.

Martin,
Reggmail is nothing but a troll. Just ignore him for the good of the forum, seriously.

OK McHale your personal attack on only me is unwarranted, (first amendment) Your thread policing is not getting you any place.
If you don't want to read this, just ignore it and move on, change the channel with your mouse, yo.
You can now stop the brown noising, clean off your nose and move on, your posting complaining is also getting tiresome as well.
If the company who owns the forum doesn't say anything.............................................you fill in the blank.
Peace.

[Lando]

I want to read this thread but I wish that your views on the Oasys wasn't in it, cause it really shouldn't be, so please take it to where it belongs, be that in PM, Oasys part of the forum, or the trashcan.

[Reggmail]

I want to read this thread but I wish that your views on the Oasys wasn't in it, cause it really shouldn't be, so please take it to where it belongs, be that in PM, Oasys part of the forum, or the trashcan.

Don't know if that is directed ( just to me personally) so until confirmed, I will hold back on my response.

On another note, at first I heard that the Kronos would be shipping some time in March then May 5 or June.

I also know that Japan ( and I pray for all touched by this earth quake) is where most equipment in manufactured in one way or another.
Would this have any bearings on Kronos release date?
Has it been pushed back, if so to what date and when could we demo it at stores location in the US?

Peace & blessings.

[danatkorg]

On another note, at first I heard that the Kronos would be shipping some time in March then May 5 or June.

People say all sorts of things, don't they?

What we'd originally told people was April for first units in stores, with some regions a month later (May). Now it looks more like May, with some regions a month later (June). This is unrelated to the earthquake.

Best regards,

Dan

[McHale]

You can now stop the brown noising, clean off your nose and move on, your posting complaining is also getting tiresome as well.
If the company who owns the forum doesn't say anything.............................................you fill in the blank.
Peace.

I'm not brown nosing, I'm trying to have discussion about the Kronos and you're making it difficult as hell because you cry a lot about something unrelated. How do you not understand that? You're obviously not good at taking hints and you obviously feel you have to have the last word. That's fine. BUT HAVE IT IN A RELATED THREAD OR FORUM. If you're not talking about the Kronos, your stupid comments are off topic. Have you never been on a forum before?

And for clarification, Lando meant you specifically. Again, you're not very observant.

[Reggmail]

I'm not brown nosing, I'm trying to have discussion about the Kronos and you're making it difficult as hell because you cry a lot about something unrelated. How do you not understand that? You're obviously not good at taking hints and you obviously feel you have to have the last word. That's fine. BUT HAVE IT IN A RELATED THREAD OR FORUM. If you're not talking about the Kronos, your stupid comments are off topic. Have you never been on a forum before?

Now how stupid can you be by posting non Kronos unrelated off topic whishes on a Kronos thread. (Dumb... your contradicting yourself, Yo)

Watch who you point your finger at because three fingers on that same hand is pointing back at you....Lol.

First of all, I speak when spoken to as you can see, If it's directed to me, I WILL RESPOND, every time.
Second of all, you don't know me and don't control where or what I post, so don't even try it, and don't go there it will only get worst.
Also, I'm sure Lando can speak for himself, it's two of us who where relating and responding to each other about the Oasys, (MartinHines and Myself) if I am the only one being singled out, it's brown noising.

You obviously don't know about my forum history so don't continue to ass-ume yourself.

Google (Reggmail) and you will see how many forums and post I've been in and will continue to exercise my free speech.
Again... as I see it, your brown noising and a** kissing is starting to cloud your brain as well.
You can also feel free to PM me if you realy like to keep furtherm off topic none kronos discussions added to this thread...Lol.
Peace.