M3 Wishlist!!
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My M3 wishlist:
1. Screensaver
2. Possibillity to invert screen
3. Auto load of user samples at startup
4. Possibillity to create your own sample start points (like most internal PCM samples has)
5. Would be nice if it could handle long filenames instead of DOS 8.3
1. Screensaver
2. Possibillity to invert screen
3. Auto load of user samples at startup
4. Possibillity to create your own sample start points (like most internal PCM samples has)
5. Would be nice if it could handle long filenames instead of DOS 8.3
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Korg Gear: Kronos 61, M3 61, MicroSampler, Z1m mkII, MS-20 Mini, ES-1 mkII
Other gear: Akai S6000, Akai VX90, Kawai K5000S, Virus TI, Roland D-110, Roland MKS-30 + DT200
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Korg Gear: Kronos 61, M3 61, MicroSampler, Z1m mkII, MS-20 Mini, ES-1 mkII
Other gear: Akai S6000, Akai VX90, Kawai K5000S, Virus TI, Roland D-110, Roland MKS-30 + DT200
What do you mean exactly because you can set the sample start points from SAMPLING mode. You can also use the Offsets in Prog mode.4. Possibillity to create your own sample start points (like most internal PCM samples has)
Regards
Sharp.
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Sorry, used the wrong wordsSharp wrote:What do you mean exactly because you can set the sample start points from SAMPLING mode. You can also use the Offsets in Prog mode.4. Possibillity to create your own sample start points (like most internal PCM samples has)

I want to create my own offsets in my samples to use in prog mode.. Doesn't seem to be possible..
/ M
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Korg Gear: Kronos 61, M3 61, MicroSampler, Z1m mkII, MS-20 Mini, ES-1 mkII
Other gear: Akai S6000, Akai VX90, Kawai K5000S, Virus TI, Roland D-110, Roland MKS-30 + DT200
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Korg Gear: Kronos 61, M3 61, MicroSampler, Z1m mkII, MS-20 Mini, ES-1 mkII
Other gear: Akai S6000, Akai VX90, Kawai K5000S, Virus TI, Roland D-110, Roland MKS-30 + DT200
yes, the only sample starts are :
- sample begining : no offset
- loop begining : offset
you can't choose in program mode another sample start
the only way to do that, is to make a copy of the sample and choose another sample start point (in sampling mode)
internal rom samples have several starts points (but not all the rom samples)
- sample begining : no offset
- loop begining : offset
you can't choose in program mode another sample start
the only way to do that, is to make a copy of the sample and choose another sample start point (in sampling mode)
internal rom samples have several starts points (but not all the rom samples)
YAMAHA W5 + TRITON proX (exb MOSS / exb PCM01 / exb PCM05 / exb SCSI / 64Mo) + M3-73 No.000187 v2.0 (exb Radias v2.0 / exb M256) + DOEPFER LMK2+
AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
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AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
...
When you use a slider (on the physical control surface, not the GUI) to change a sound in real time, or for the mixer, or to change karma and so on, as soon as you move the slider the related parameter immediatly change from the programmed value to the value of the physical slider.
This is not so good in live environments, because if the slider position is very different from the programmed value, the result is that the sound suddenly change a lot until the slider is moved to the old programmed position.
Having physical sliders "out of sync" related to programmed values happens almost always, expecially after changing a patch/combi.
To fix this behaviour, there shoud be a setting (in progr/combi) that change the way sliders work. With this setting enabled the sliders moving don't change the parameter value until the old programmed value is reached. There should be also a visual reference to it: in the GUI all painted sliders should have also a little arrow indicating the current physical slider position. When the physical slider is moving, the arrow will move until it reach the programmed value: at this time the value start changing and also the painted slider in the GUI will move.
Thank you.
Roberto
This is not so good in live environments, because if the slider position is very different from the programmed value, the result is that the sound suddenly change a lot until the slider is moved to the old programmed position.
Having physical sliders "out of sync" related to programmed values happens almost always, expecially after changing a patch/combi.
To fix this behaviour, there shoud be a setting (in progr/combi) that change the way sliders work. With this setting enabled the sliders moving don't change the parameter value until the old programmed value is reached. There should be also a visual reference to it: in the GUI all painted sliders should have also a little arrow indicating the current physical slider position. When the physical slider is moving, the arrow will move until it reach the programmed value: at this time the value start changing and also the painted slider in the GUI will move.
Thank you.
Roberto
The 1st offset is available in Program mode for my personal samples. I've just checked.r12 wrote:yes, the only sample starts are :
- sample begining : no offset
- loop begining : offset
you can't choose in program mode another sample start
Would be nice to be able to specify the exact point and more though.
Regards
Sharp.
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yes and this offset is the loop start
if there is no loop in the sample, the offset is "sample end" (so no sound)
I use this particuliarity for organ percussion that is monophonic in legato mode
if there is no loop in the sample, the offset is "sample end" (so no sound)
I use this particuliarity for organ percussion that is monophonic in legato mode

YAMAHA W5 + TRITON proX (exb MOSS / exb PCM01 / exb PCM05 / exb SCSI / 64Mo) + M3-73 No.000187 v2.0 (exb Radias v2.0 / exb M256) + DOEPFER LMK2+
AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
...
AKAI DPS16 + MINDPRINT Envoice + ART Dual MP + RODE NT1000
BEHRINGER DDX3216 + 4 MACKIE SRM350 + 2 MACKIE SWA1501 (+ PEAVEY KB300 )
...
Making the RPPR controllable to ANY midi channel. Could conserve precious keys. I know about the global transpose method, but you still lose a key per pattern on my 73 key. Very frustrating.
If the RPPR was assignable, I could put it on another keyboard, or "hide" them in the pads, where the pads can call said midi channel and the appropriate note that triggers.
There's still room on the RPPR page to add another option
If the RPPR was assignable, I could put it on another keyboard, or "hide" them in the pads, where the pads can call said midi channel and the appropriate note that triggers.
There's still room on the RPPR page to add another option

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larf2k...
"Making the RPPR controllable to ANY midi channel. Could conserve precious keys. I know about the global transpose method, but you still lose a key per pattern on my 73 key. Very frustrating.
If the RPPR was assignable, I could put it on another keyboard, or "hide" them in the pads, where the pads can call said midi channel and the appropriate note that triggers.
There's still room on the RPPR page to add another option"
Actually that is possible with external keyboard controller and M3m. Since the M3m doesn't have MIDI omni, it responds to MIDI only on the selected channel and track.
The patterns are actually assign on a specific track... If I assign all patterns on track 16 (channel 16), the patterns are only triggered if notes are received on channel 16..... leaving rest of the 15 channels open for all keys..
"Making the RPPR controllable to ANY midi channel. Could conserve precious keys. I know about the global transpose method, but you still lose a key per pattern on my 73 key. Very frustrating.
If the RPPR was assignable, I could put it on another keyboard, or "hide" them in the pads, where the pads can call said midi channel and the appropriate note that triggers.
There's still room on the RPPR page to add another option"
Actually that is possible with external keyboard controller and M3m. Since the M3m doesn't have MIDI omni, it responds to MIDI only on the selected channel and track.
The patterns are actually assign on a specific track... If I assign all patterns on track 16 (channel 16), the patterns are only triggered if notes are received on channel 16..... leaving rest of the 15 channels open for all keys..
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.
For starters, let me add that this is for a performance use.
I might as well describe the scenario:
I want to play a combi basically in seq mode, for the reason of using the RPPR for SysEx messages that automate things within the patches, effects, what have you. I'll have my couple of patches on MIDI channel 1 set up in a split. I have several other tracks dedicated to other MIDI channels that I use to play with other keyboards, hooked up via MIDI, obviously.
I want to (and know how to) set up patterns in the RPPR that trigger specific sysEx messages like volume changes, keyzone changes, etc. I want to have these to be able to be triggered off of one of my other keyboards via another MIDI channel besides 1.
Let's say I have my other keyboard set to channel 10. My M3-73 is set to track 1, which is MIDI channel one which has several other tracks associated with channel one, so all of those timbres are sounding. As soon as I press the RPPR button, #1 I lose the lowest octave (but that's no problem from global coarse tune), #2 I lose the assigned keys in the RPPR. If I want to say, trigger from my MIDI channel 10 that my other keyboard is set to, I have to change the track select on the TOP of the RPPR setup page to track 10 (MIDI channel 10). And now the M3 does not sound the track 1, channel 1 sounds on the keybed.
Am I missing something here? Can I have the "trigger keys" on the RPPR be somewhere besides the m3 keybed? Or more precisely put, can they be on different MIDI channel than what the M3 is playing? Korg made such a nice keybed, I want to waste silly trigger keys on my lesser boards...
I might as well describe the scenario:
I want to play a combi basically in seq mode, for the reason of using the RPPR for SysEx messages that automate things within the patches, effects, what have you. I'll have my couple of patches on MIDI channel 1 set up in a split. I have several other tracks dedicated to other MIDI channels that I use to play with other keyboards, hooked up via MIDI, obviously.
I want to (and know how to) set up patterns in the RPPR that trigger specific sysEx messages like volume changes, keyzone changes, etc. I want to have these to be able to be triggered off of one of my other keyboards via another MIDI channel besides 1.
Let's say I have my other keyboard set to channel 10. My M3-73 is set to track 1, which is MIDI channel one which has several other tracks associated with channel one, so all of those timbres are sounding. As soon as I press the RPPR button, #1 I lose the lowest octave (but that's no problem from global coarse tune), #2 I lose the assigned keys in the RPPR. If I want to say, trigger from my MIDI channel 10 that my other keyboard is set to, I have to change the track select on the TOP of the RPPR setup page to track 10 (MIDI channel 10). And now the M3 does not sound the track 1, channel 1 sounds on the keybed.
Am I missing something here? Can I have the "trigger keys" on the RPPR be somewhere besides the m3 keybed? Or more precisely put, can they be on different MIDI channel than what the M3 is playing? Korg made such a nice keybed, I want to waste silly trigger keys on my lesser boards...

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larf2k... I completely understand the issue with RPPR taking up keys....
As I mentioned, if you use M3m and an external keyboard controller, then you can have the RPPR on a specific track and channel. I don't know if this works for the on-board keyboard.
Another trick you can use is to map the RPPRs to keys that outside the keyrange you normally play with... for example extreme high and extreme low keys. Then use the pads to send notes on those keys, or use external keyboard to trigger those keys...
As I mentioned, if you use M3m and an external keyboard controller, then you can have the RPPR on a specific track and channel. I don't know if this works for the on-board keyboard.
Another trick you can use is to map the RPPRs to keys that outside the keyrange you normally play with... for example extreme high and extreme low keys. Then use the pads to send notes on those keys, or use external keyboard to trigger those keys...
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.
I don't have an M3m; I have a M3-73, and the goal is to get the RPPR off the M3 keys, which you can't seemingly by default. As mentioned in the previous post, as soon as you change the track, the RPPR follows and so does the M3 keybed to that timbre, channel, etc. They seemed to be linked: the RPPR and specificially the M3 keybed, although you can ALSO trigger from another keyboard of the specified channel number. But I'm trying to exclude the RPPR from the m3-73.Shakil wrote:
As I mentioned, if you use M3m and an external keyboard controller, then you can have the RPPR on a specific track and channel. I don't know if this works for the on-board keyboard.
Also with the m3-73 you can't get the RPPR key high enough to be out of key range as the RPPR only goes to C8, and if you perform the global +12 coarse tune in order to preserve the bottom octave, "C8" is now C7 which is starting with the top key of the board. So every subsequent assigned pattern takes up 1 more key.
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Yes, I know. That's why I have talked about this added benefit of using M3m and external keyboard.
In your case, what you can do is to use the onboard keyboard keys for RPPR and external keyboard for channels other than the selected track.
In your case, what you can do is to use the onboard keyboard keys for RPPR and external keyboard for channels other than the selected track.
Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol.