Official statement on the status and future of the OASYS

[Davidb]

FWIW, we are still looking for current users to adress to the letter which it is going to be sent to Korg shorlty, to ask for the possibility of new developments for the OASYS in the future.

If anyone is interested to collaborate, please contact me by PM and I´ll give you more details and contact info about the people who is heading all this.

Thanx and regards.

[Sharp]

Hi David.

Why are you sending a letter to KORG ? It's not going to change the outcome of all this even in the slightest, and it's not like we the attention either.

They have already heard everything we have had to say on this subject so I don't see the point of sending a letter. It will accomplish nothing and it won't tell them anything they don't already know.

The OASYS is by no means crippled in anyway just because of the Sequencer so really the only thing people should be doing right now is making the most of the OASYS as it stands. KORG will have to get it right the next time when the OASYS successor is released. If they don't then simply don't buy it.

Regards
Sharp

[Rocness]

Hi David.

Why are you sending a letter to KORG ? It's not going to change the outcome of all this even in the slightest, and it's not like we the attention either.

They have already heard everything we have had to say on this subject so I don't see the point of sending a letter. It will accomplish nothing and it won't tell them anything they don't already know.

The OASYS is by no means crippled in anyway just because of the Sequencer so really the only thing people should be doing right now is making the most of the OASYS as it stands. KORG will have to get it right the next time when the OASYS successor is released. If they don't then simply don't buy it.

Regards
Sharp

I believe it's his RIGHT to write a letter if he chooses to .
Why does that bother you I don't get it.

Ya know, it seems some people on this forum get offended if you speck out against Korg. If you do, all of a sudden you get accused of not respecting the regulars on this forum. Like the $8000 they spent is better than ours.

LIsten. heres the bottom line.
The guy and many others like myself spent thousands of dollars did you hear me I said thousands of dollars man. I bet there are people out there who spent well over $10,000 ya know with all the options an all.

Then the great Oasys was unexpectedly discontinued, Now you are telling all of us to just shut up, go quietly in the night, be happy with what you got
and wait for the new and improved Oasys part 2. Excuse me, but its the whole point of Oasys is that you didn't need a Oasys part 2 (Ya know with the whole open thing an all) .

Look all I'm saying is if the guy wants to write a letter give him a freaking break .What do you care ?
BTW I like your work
peace

[Davidb]

Hi Sharp.

Well, I´m fact I am not the one who started all this, it all came from a group of users from the Hispasonic Forums who asked me to collaborate, and I´m doing it because I think their request is fair enough. I´m only commenting it here, as they requested me, to make it extensive for OASYS users of this forums, as some people here were also intertested.

As far as what you state about KORG will have to get it right the next time when the OASYS successor is released, you are right here.

If they don't then simply don't buy it. For sure.

Thanx and regards.
David.

[Rocness]

Hi Sharp.

As far as what you state about KORG will have to get it right the next time when the OASYS successor is released, you are right here.

David.

Maybe it's just me but I thought the whole point to the Oasys was that you don't need another one. It's Open O.A.SY.S

If there is a new Oasys in the future there should be a upgrade program
for Oasys owners like Eventide does for there $5000 processors.
Eventide is a smaller company than Korg here in NJ.

Out of all the workstations i've seen the Oasys is the most human.
To The Oasys and KARMA live long and prosper.

[Sharp]

Hi Rocness.

I believe it's his RIGHT to write a letter if he chooses to .
Why does that bother you I don't get it.

Don't get all paranoid on me now, what part of what I said suggests I'm bothered by anything David is doing. He can do whatever he want's, it makes no difference to me. I'm only pointing out that it's pointless sending a letter when KORG are already are aware of this thread.

Ya know, it seems some people on this forum get offended if you speck out against Korg

What has that got to do with anything I said ?

LIsten. heres the bottom line.
The guy and many others like myself spent thousands of dollars did you hear me I said thousands of dollars man. I bet there are people out there who spent well over $10,000 ya know with all the options an all.

How is that the bottom line ?
You bought a keyboard, the same one as everyone else in this thread including me?. .... And ?

And.... you need to ask yourself a simple question. What do you hope to accomplish and do you think it you will achieve that goal ?

I know the answer to this, which is why I said what I did to David.

Then the great Oasys was unexpectedly discontinued, Now you are telling all of us to just shut up, go quietly in the night, be happy with what you got
and wait for the new and improved Oasys part 2.

I did not tell anyone to shut up.

Look all I'm saying is if the guy wants to write a letter give him a freaking break .What do you care ?

David is someone I consider a friend and I'd hate to see him get all upset over all this when there is nothing that can be done to change the situation. So yes I do care about one thing here, David.

You, I don't know and I don't care for your tone when I have done nothing wrong. If you wish to tallk, then talk to me as if we are face to face.

Sharp.

[Sharp]

Hi David.

Just to clear up a few things here that some how Rocness managed to pull out of thin air. I am not trying to stop you from doing what you feel you must. I'm only concerned as a friend that you will devote a lot of mixed feelings and emotion into all this and accomplish nothing by the end.

As a friend I have to tell you truthfully what I believe which is it's not possible to effect the decision KORG has already made in anyway, and I would hate to see you spending lots of time on this.

You know me well enough to know I've gotten plenty digs in at KORG over the Sequencer and I'm not afraid to voice my opinion. So I support you 100% as far as your passion goes, but I think all the talk on this subject has gone as far as we need it to go.

I don't think there is anything anyone can do now other than wait to see what KORG's move is on the next workstation. When that happens I will express my feelings by either buying with joy, or walking away with no sale and disgust on my face. That's all anyone can do.

Regards.
Sharp.

[Rocness]

Happy Fathers Day !!!!!!
To all you Oasys lovers.

Upgrade your Oasys with some of the fine tools offered by
Korg ,Karma-labs,Karo, and of course Sharpy.

You deserve it.
Peace

[olehec]

Maybe this thread could be split into "griping about the miserable sequencer" and "constructive suggestions"?

What is important is that Korg keeps supporting the Oasys through bug fixes, answers to questions, and spare parts and that Korg helps independents like KARO support the product with sounds.

I got my OASYS half a year ago, and I count myself lucky to own the finest board on the planet. All hardware is discontinued eventually, and the OASYS had to go too - face it, the hardware inside is already antique. But the board sounds beautiful, as does a DX7.

Thanks to the people at Korg and to Steve Kay for bringing us this wonderful instrument.

BUT PLEASE KEEP SUPPORTING IT !!!!! We paid a lot...

[Rocness]

Hi Rocness.

You, I don't know and I don't care for your tone when I have done nothing wrong. If you wish to tallk, then talk to me as if we are face to face.

Sharp.

This is so unprofessional

[miket156]

is off the mark. As far as Korg is concerned, the M3 is the "replacement". Its priced so average people can buy it. I doubt we'll be seeing any new synth come out from any of the big 3 for 8 or 9 grand anytime soon. Roland just brought out the V-Piano and guess what the biggest objection is? Its not worth the price for what it does. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

We just have to be happy with what the big 3 can bring out for what "most" of us can afford.


Mike T.

[Kontrol49]

is off the mark. As far as Korg is concerned, the M3 is the "replacement". Its priced so average people can buy it. I doubt we'll be seeing any new synth come out from any of the big 3 for 8 or 9 grand anytime soon. Roland just brought out the V-Piano and guess what the biggest objection is? Its not worth the price for what it does. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

We just have to be happy with what the big 3 can bring out for what "most" of us can afford.


Mike T.

Well I'd say the Oasys has far more to offer than the V piano,in comparison is well worth the price in feature comparisons,as with the Oasys and V piano they are aimed at a niche market Consumer.I would say it is worth the price,most owners will tell you that,not just to defend there purchase the Oasys is a machine that you will learn to love,most people base there judgements of it on a quick demo in a shop, 2 years down the line I'm still finding new things in my Oasys and its always the first source of sounds I go to when Writing,I could choose any number of synths I own.

The price isn't aimed at alienating people to its technology unless they can afford it because there are lower priced devices derived from its technology,the cost as has been outlined by Korg representatives in here are that they are based primarily on the component pricing at the time of build to make such a hardware machine,and I suspect that the deal with the V piano is exactly the same, it didn't command a high price simply to appeal to a Wealthier customer.

People seem to have become fixated with the stigma over Korgs decisions that now the Oasys has been officially dropped from production and possibly any future support by Korg that there's a kind of "Told you so" attitude from those who snubbed it as worthless paperweight,or not worth the price,and to those I can only assume that you never owned or spent time with it.Those people will probably be the very same who will be searching for secondhand Oasys's in years to come,and raving about what a superb machine it was/is

[ix studio]

Maybe this thread could be split into "griping about the miserable sequencer" and "constructive suggestions"?

constructive suggestions.....

i think people just have to accept korgs decision and base future purchases on that.I myself have supported roland and korg for years and yamaha and slowly the last 5 years or more i began to see a pattern , i got into roland variphrase and then watched as they promised one thing and phased it out to bring in a cheaper dumbed down and less quality sounding version and slowly i have stopped buying new gear .I think thats the bottom line , the best constructive thing is to understand why korg did this , because they are businessmen and in the current climate the oasys isnt making them enough % to keep supporting it and so they end developments , thats fair , they are a business and you have to consider whether you want to support them in the future.Personally i now realise i am wiser to buy these comapnies gears a few years later , keep my old gear longer and buy stuff cheap and secondhand , i see investing in these all new machines each and every year a lemming mentality now , they just want to keep selling you new plastic enclosures with a few more features , and we keep selling old gear to buy new gear and going round in circles and in the end thats how business works , one man feeds off another to some degree , yes their is an exchange but i guarantee you in multi million pound businesses like this the model is based on how you can keep selling someone the same old thing half the time and how you can keep giving the customer just enough but not to much so they dont buy your next seasons product.My constructive advise is dont buy new korg products again and use what you have and enjoy it and buy the latest thing when your tired of the old one and can buy a new model secondhand for alot less , it makes more sense.And never believe what they say as most of its hype , they are businessmen selling products after all , see through this constant ' you must buy our new product ' its better than the last , its utter rubbish most of the time.I say enjoy your oasys or sell it and move on and learn from all this , after the roland vsynth i wont ever buy a new roland product , korg finished me off also , i love their gear but i think they are playing us like idiots to keep buying new shells with whats basically software updates .They had the chance with the oasys to sell less plastic , create less waste , to be more envirmentally freindly , instead of keep selling plastic keys they could sell updates but korgs problem is that a large % of their income is from selling new plastic items , they missed the boat i think , the future is in oasys and upgradable platforms you NEVER replace and not in keep producing plastic items with maybe a few new features , a new look .Korg remaina business and so i wouldnt bother writing them a letter unless its to offer them more money , thats their game.Invest your future cash in people living in the future i say.Korg are living in the past.

[Davidb]

constructive suggestions.....

... i think people just have to accept korgs decision and base future purchases on that.

As a Korg user for many years, I completly agree with you.

... , thats fair , they are a business and you have to consider whether you want to support them in the future.

+1

Korg remain a business and so i wouldnt bother writing them a letter unless its to offer them more money , thats their game.Invest your future cash in people living in the future i say.Korg are living in the past.

Well, the letter sent to Korg, signed by some OASYS users with their names and serial numbers, requesting new updates if possible, now or in a coming future, and not only about the Sequencer and M3 Xpanded features but also any other possible, mentioned the possibility, requested by some users, to pay for them if necessary.

Sent twice.
(Both Korg USA and Korg UK)

Not an answer, twice.
Even just to say its been recived.

So, for me anyway, this matter its over.
As its been said, everyone can have their conclusions now.

[Davidb]

Hi David.

Hi James,

I havent been aware of this post till today, go figure.
So Sorry!

Just to clear up a few things here. ...

Theres no need, dude.
We know each other well enough.

As a friend I have to tell you truthfully what I believe which is it's not possible to effect the decision KORG has already made in anyway, and I would hate to see you spending lots of time on this.

Well, as stated in previous posts, it wasnt me who started this idea about the lettter, but I just wanted to support it as I think the points (described above) are all legit and valid. I just offered me to try to push it a little, with the results we´ve seen.

You know me well enough to know I've gotten plenty digs in at KORG over the Sequencer and I'm not afraid to voice my opinion.

I am pretty aware of it all, and I know youre not, of course.

David is someone I consider a friend and I'd hate to see him get all upset over all this when there is nothing that can be done to change the situation. So yes I do care about one thing here, David.

Now, for me the story is over, as I said.
I have now the conclusions I wanted, in a different way I spected, however.
I guess the others can now have their own, too.

Once more, thanx for your interest and thanx for this message.

Be sure I appreciate your friendship even more than your superb sampling work, which is saying much!

Take care you, your wife and kids.
Enjoy them now that you have time, and have a wonderful summer.

Regards.