Fully loaded RAM slots = noise

cmrr · Post by **cmrr** » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:44 am

Found with all sample RAM slots loaded in my TEX, it itntroduced noise into a program I was using in the first octave (prog. A116 Vox Continental)

I tried different RAM sticks in different combinations and no matter what, with all three slots filled, I always get this distortion (best described) at the first octave. Using only 2 slots, the problem goes away

anyone experience this problem?

Triton Lounger · Post by **Triton Lounger** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:21 am

Yes it's unfortunate but true. Try searching this forum. There has been a few threads on this problem.

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:34 am

Hi, I am going to purchase TEX88 and I am affraid about this issue. I browsed the forum but I didn't find any rule when the problem occurs or not. My Triton will have 3x16MB SIMM installed. Sorry, this question might be asked tousand times but I didn't find an answer: can this problem be solved by OS update?

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:19 pm

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=14545

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:55 pm

Sharp wrote:http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=14545

Thanks, Sharp. I must have overlooked this thread (maybe because it's in Triton classic section). So, this looks like RAM compatibility problem (if so then this is strange why nobody mention it, blaming RAM or Korg internal structure instead). I wonder what would happen if I installed 3x16 SIMMs - all of them originally from 3 Korg Extreme products. Anyway, the seller (after long use of this product) reported that he did not experience any clicks so maybe it is not going to be issue (anyway, I heard samples around here and there are certain digital clicks - sometimes more noticable, sometimes less).

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:37 pm

Thanks, Sharp. I must have overlooked this thread (maybe because it's in Triton classic section)

It's actually a section called “Classic Threads” and it's where we keep tutorials or generally anything considered a classic thread. It's not a place for the Triton Classic as such.

So, this looks like RAM compatibility problem

99.999% of all complaints regarding noise and static when dealing with samples are down to people installing the wrong type of ram.

Regards.
Sharp.

JohnnyAardvark · Post by **JohnnyAardvark** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:43 pm

Hi all,

(Sorry to but in Sharp)

but these may be of interest too. And not necesarily down to the wrong type of RAM.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... sc&start=0

and

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ight=click

Not been around for a while... so Hi and best wishes to all!

Regards

Steve

Triton Lounger · Post by **Triton Lounger** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 pm

Sharp wrote:
99.999% of all complaints regarding noise and static when dealing with samples are down to people installing the wrong type of ram.

Regards.
Sharp.

I currently own a Tri EX 88. Your right Sharp I believe using the wrong type of RAM will give you trouble. I've spent quite a bit of time with this issue after calling Ian at Korg Tech Suport. I followed his recommendation to reseat all three RAM boards, and it didn't solve the noise problem.

The real issue is I got my 96 megs of RAM from the same ebay seller and had the problem with noise and clicks when trying to use 3x32 meg sticks @ 96 meg total? To rule out suspicion there was a problem with fourienersean's RAM I even tried swapping in and out Korg factory sticks, 16 megs with the ebay 32 RAM and no combination would allow me to use any more than 64 megs.

Now I use only two 32 meg sticks of RAM (from ebay) @ a total of 64 megs and the noise went away. I don't how wide spread this problem is, but I know a few users here have had this issue. To my knowledge Korg has never given any official acknowledgement of a cause.

So it's not as easy as saying it's just the wrong kind of RAM. Not wanting to start a fight, but I think there's more to this problem that has yet to be revealed. I doubt we'll find out though, so it's important that we all share our personal experiences on this issue so new users will know what work arounds can be used.

cmrr,

If you get an Extreme and want to test if you can max the RAM to 96 or not go for it. If you can only run 64 megs, I don't think it's a total deal buster, it's still a very nice board.

If you get your RAM from fourienersean off ebay you'll just have an extra 32 meg stick as a back up. I ended up putting it in my Triton Rack.

(edited some typos cause: me no spell to good)

dimitris · Post by **dimitris** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:39 pm

Now I use only two 32 meg sticks of RAM (from ebay) @ a total of 64 megs and the noise went away. I don't how wide spread this problem is, but I know a few users here have had this issue. To my knowledge Korg has never given any official acknowledgement of a cause.

So it's not as easy as saying it's just the wrong kind of RAM. Not wanting to start a fight, but I think there's more to this problem that has yet to be revealed. I doubt we'll found out though, so it's important that we all share our personal experiences on this issue so new users will know what work arounds can be used.

I agree with that.

Regards,
Dimitris

Triton Lounger · Post by **Triton Lounger** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:06 am

Wow , what font size is that dimitris? It looks like negative-3 tiny tiny....LOL
:3dshocked:

HUGE-24
LARGE-18
NORMAL-12
SMALL-9
TINY-7

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:25 am

If you get an Extreme and want to test if you can max the RAM to 96 or not go for it. If you can only run 64 megs, I don't think it's a total deal buster, it's still a very nice board.

I don't think I am going to go beyond 48MB already installed. Sampling in Extreme is very nice feature but not critical for me. I can see one huge library in download section : "VL Project" (60MB). Having 48MB installed I am hoping that it is possible to prepare the project by splitting it into smaller parts or make Extreme to select which samples I want to load into memory.

Thanks to all for precious comments.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Post by **Sharp** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:08 pm

Hi Guys.

So what your saying here then is that it's KORG's fault ?.
Why are you not returning your keyboards then ?.

If you can prove that there is a fault, then they had to address it.

Regards.
Sharp.

Triton Lounger · Post by **Triton Lounger** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:25 pm

KrzysiekK wrote: I don't think I am going to go beyond 48MB already installed. Sampling in Extreme is very nice feature but not critical for me. I can see one huge library in download section : "VL Project" (60MB). Having 48MB installed I am hoping that it is possible to prepare the project by splitting it into smaller parts or make Extreme to select which samples I want to load into memory.

Thanks to all for precious comments.

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Your welcome,

I feel the same way as I found that 64 was enough so I could load on the World Village ethnic library disc. It's all water under the bridge for me personally. Ths issue doesn't cross my mind until someone poses the question again. I'm into software more now, and enjoying it very much. There's some excellent stuff out there.

JohnnyAardvark · Post by **JohnnyAardvark** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:06 pm

Sharp wrote:Hi Guys.

So what your saying here then is that it's KORG's fault ?.
Why are you not returning your keyboards then ?.

If you can prove that there is a fault, then they had to address it.

Regards.
Sharp.

Doesn't usually cause me any problems. I have heard it. All RAM installed, then you get a slight click (artifact?) on some ROM samples. Quite bizzare really (since you would not expect the RAM to effect the ROM). Different samples/sounds on different keyboards(?)... I am not sure everyone experiences it? I have wondered about. Static? Earthing? Quality of components in Extreme vs Studio?

At my level I can live with it... never notice it so don't see it as a problem. Just happened to come across this post and had followed this previously. Hope they are useful to KrzysiekK and cmrr.

All for now,

Regards

Steve

cmrr · Post by **cmrr** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:13 am

Thanks for the replies all

Did a search previously for the problem but I got no relevant info back until I actually posted the question. Thanks especially to JohnnyAardvark, KrzysiekK and Triton Lounger for not assuming I'm an idiot

This is definately not a RAM compatibility issue - I easily came to that conclusion myself - I have plenty of compatible Ram to deduce this is not what's going on. Doesn't matter if it's 16MB or 32MB, it's a problem only with all 3 slots filled

With 2 sticks it's fine so I guess it's only sorta broke. Gonna try re-flashing the OS (running V1.0.5) and see if that solves it.

This things well out of warranty so running with 64MB is not really a big deal except if somethings a "little broke" it can easily become "big broke" and that's what worries me

THIS IS KORG's PROBLEM - and they really don't have to address any problem especially with a discontinued item, so that means it's my and others problem

I've dealt with MANY engineers who seem to feel if only a few people are having problems why bother rectifying it

Unfortunately this is the nature of modern (mainly consumer) manufacturing and unless a chorus of people bitch nothing gets done

I'll get back as to if the re-flash works and add another voice in the chorus if it doesn't work

Thanks again all