Hello! I am so excited to see a forum dedicated to this instrument. I have been playing keyboard/piano for roughly 5 years now, however this is my first "serious" keyboard. I was very close to buying the Kross, which had a user friendly feature that I am finding difficult to locate on the Krome and that is the ability to easily and quickly program and switch between preset favorite sounds (One quick hit of an A,B,C,D,E button switched from piano to horns etc). I rushed in to the Krome purchase because I was able to get $700 off of the price, and while I am beyond impressed and in love with the many features this device has I am nervous that one of the most important features I wanted may not be available.
I have spent several hours watching videos, reading forums and learning about the Krome, none of which have been a waste of time. However any time someone touches on this question/concern there are nothing but vague answers or people talking about how great the Kronus Setlist option is.
Can someone please tell me if/how this can be achieved on the Krome? Thank you in advance!
New Krome-88 owner, basic question
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You can save program to the free empty user bank (you can also overwrite any existing presets but I wouldn't recommend it for now).
Then if you put them in the same group of 10 (0 to 9, 10 to 19 etc) I think you can "lock" the tens using the utility menu and use the numeric pad to switch quickly. If not, you could still use the up/down buttons this way.
You could also put your favorite sounds in a user category and use the touch screen.
Then if you put them in the same group of 10 (0 to 9, 10 to 19 etc) I think you can "lock" the tens using the utility menu and use the numeric pad to switch quickly. If not, you could still use the up/down buttons this way.
You could also put your favorite sounds in a user category and use the touch screen.
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+1 to Sander.
There are as many schemes and methods as there are users - this is one reason that things are vague where "set lists" are concerned, but it boils down to this: there are roughly 3 or 4 basic ways to get from patch A to patch B.
1 - memorize it. The patches you want are all over the place... you can either write down what you want to use so you can see it (i.e., write the patch at the top of a song sheet or chart) or commit it to memory. The advantage is that you don't have to set up a user bank.
1-a - move patches to a logical order and memorize with mnemonic hints. Personally, I use this one. I set up a User bank with patches organized by category (i.e., piano-00/09, strings-50/59, etc.). I can very easily recall where each category is and within each set of 10, which thing I want.
2 - set list in 10's. If your sets don't change much, you can lock a set of ten patches (i.e., 10-19) such that you can use single button pushes to get to the next patch. This method keeps you in play mode so you can see the maximum information with each patch change. IF you don't have lots of patch changes (more than ten per SET) this should work well for you - you do have to set up each set list as a set of 10 in a user bank.
2-a - set list; visual. When you select either a Bank view or Category view you will see a list of patches. These are selectable in audition mode with a screen touch. Patches will change as each is highlighted, but until you push enter the display will stay on bank/category view. If you set up either your setlist or "best of" patches in a user bank or within a user (favorites) category you'll be able to see them an move around freely.
2-b - sequences; a sequence can be thought of as a kind of set list of its own with 8 pre-selected patches in one view. By soloing tracks within a non-running sequence you can select between a number of patches (8 or 16 depending on synth). You are somewhat limited in your effects by what is allowed within the sequencer's effect structure; you will probably need to set up effects different than what some programs originally have. This scheme is most useful (IMO) for single songs with multiple quick patch changes.
3 - show order. Some gigs are very structured - show bands, musicals/broadway, tribute bands, etc. You'll need the same patches in the exact same order... so build a user bank with exactly that; up to 128 changes, in order, named to remind you where you are in the show and what part you're playing. Then set up the assignable pedal to INC(+) and move through them with a toe tap.
4 - vertical integration (move by 10's) - this requires the most thought to set up properly but you can integrate it if you need a mixed scheme; for example, you might want to use the category set-up in 1-A but need to do quick changes in specific show order (3) for part of your show. If you set up the patches you need for the show to 9-19-29-etc. you can jump through them using the "hold 10s" and the INC/DEC button to move through them in order.
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Things to Remember:
1 - Korg assumes you're an intelligent being and allows you to overwrite anything - so be careful - if you've PRE-SAVED your set up you can always recover from mistakes. Get STUPID insurance... back up your files.
2 - learn to use custom .PCG files - loading in a set for a specific need is very quick and easy - so you could use any and all of the schemes described above depending on the needs of the moment. Band, musical theatre, church, solo project can each have individualized set-ups and sounds.
3 - use the tools available - editors & librarian software, manuals (RTFM!), forums can all help you answer questions and get new ideas.
BB
There are as many schemes and methods as there are users - this is one reason that things are vague where "set lists" are concerned, but it boils down to this: there are roughly 3 or 4 basic ways to get from patch A to patch B.
1 - memorize it. The patches you want are all over the place... you can either write down what you want to use so you can see it (i.e., write the patch at the top of a song sheet or chart) or commit it to memory. The advantage is that you don't have to set up a user bank.
1-a - move patches to a logical order and memorize with mnemonic hints. Personally, I use this one. I set up a User bank with patches organized by category (i.e., piano-00/09, strings-50/59, etc.). I can very easily recall where each category is and within each set of 10, which thing I want.
2 - set list in 10's. If your sets don't change much, you can lock a set of ten patches (i.e., 10-19) such that you can use single button pushes to get to the next patch. This method keeps you in play mode so you can see the maximum information with each patch change. IF you don't have lots of patch changes (more than ten per SET) this should work well for you - you do have to set up each set list as a set of 10 in a user bank.
2-a - set list; visual. When you select either a Bank view or Category view you will see a list of patches. These are selectable in audition mode with a screen touch. Patches will change as each is highlighted, but until you push enter the display will stay on bank/category view. If you set up either your setlist or "best of" patches in a user bank or within a user (favorites) category you'll be able to see them an move around freely.
2-b - sequences; a sequence can be thought of as a kind of set list of its own with 8 pre-selected patches in one view. By soloing tracks within a non-running sequence you can select between a number of patches (8 or 16 depending on synth). You are somewhat limited in your effects by what is allowed within the sequencer's effect structure; you will probably need to set up effects different than what some programs originally have. This scheme is most useful (IMO) for single songs with multiple quick patch changes.
3 - show order. Some gigs are very structured - show bands, musicals/broadway, tribute bands, etc. You'll need the same patches in the exact same order... so build a user bank with exactly that; up to 128 changes, in order, named to remind you where you are in the show and what part you're playing. Then set up the assignable pedal to INC(+) and move through them with a toe tap.
4 - vertical integration (move by 10's) - this requires the most thought to set up properly but you can integrate it if you need a mixed scheme; for example, you might want to use the category set-up in 1-A but need to do quick changes in specific show order (3) for part of your show. If you set up the patches you need for the show to 9-19-29-etc. you can jump through them using the "hold 10s" and the INC/DEC button to move through them in order.
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Things to Remember:
1 - Korg assumes you're an intelligent being and allows you to overwrite anything - so be careful - if you've PRE-SAVED your set up you can always recover from mistakes. Get STUPID insurance... back up your files.
2 - learn to use custom .PCG files - loading in a set for a specific need is very quick and easy - so you could use any and all of the schemes described above depending on the needs of the moment. Band, musical theatre, church, solo project can each have individualized set-ups and sounds.
3 - use the tools available - editors & librarian software, manuals (RTFM!), forums can all help you answer questions and get new ideas.
BB
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