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Korg PA and tablet announcement

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:41 am
by karmathanever
Hi guys

A bit more progress!!!
See:
http://www.korgpa.com
and
http://www.korgpa.com/images/stories/pd ... r_iPad.pdf

As I currently have a good Android tablet, my question to Korg is "Is the Android tablet support/connectivity definitely going to become available?"
If the answer is "No", then I will look at getting an iPad - just don't want to waste any money..... :D

Cheers

Pete :D

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:08 am
by Sam CA
I think this is exactly the same pdf file that someone posted few days ago.

So I guess now we know what this ipad connectivity was all about. Basically you can sync the songbook with a pdf file (Score/Lyrics/Chord Charts...etc). That was the whole purpose of this release, right?

If the answer is yes, then how is this any different from what people used to do before. I've never done this myself, but I'm pretty sure that I've read multiple similar posts as to how some people used the camera connection kit on the iPad to flip pdf pages by changing a style. In fact someone had made a video tutorial for this.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:26 am
by dimitris
I posted the first PDF file.
Until previous OS's all PA series was just receiving control messages from tablet. With the new OS PA3X and PA900 can also send control messages to tablet.

Re: Korg PA and tablet announcement

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:30 am
by dimitris
karmathanever wrote:Hi guys

A bit more progress!!!
See:
http://www.korgpa.com
and
http://www.korgpa.com/images/stories/pd ... r_iPad.pdf

As I currently have a good Android tablet, my question to Korg is "Is the Android tablet support/connectivity definitely going to become available?"
If the answer is "No", then I will look at getting an iPad - just don't want to waste any money..... :D



Cheers

Pete :D

This question goes to Android app creators.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:38 am
by Sam CA
dimitris wrote: Until previous OS's all PA series was just receiving control messages from tablet. With the new OS PA3X and PA900 can also send control messages to tablet.
So that's the difference then.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:54 am
by karmathanever
dimitris wrote:This question goes to Android app creators.
Hmmmm.... I'm getting a feeling of vague disappointment....
I wasn't expecting Korg to come up with lots of apps but thought that at least there were already some in progress by "someone" making the "tablet" OS changes substantially justifiable.

SONGBOOK app is something I would hardly use... as, for me, SONGBOOK is not that difficult to manage on board plus the SONGBOOK editor is fine.
So I am now guessing that unless someone out there is reckoning that KORG PA3X apps development is lucrative, then we won't gain much at all.

I am NOT complaining - just got my hopes up a little higher than the current potential situation. So does anyone know if there are Korg PA "apps" on the horizon?

Never mind - I'll deflate my excitement..... didn't really want to play Angry Birds on my PA3X touchscreen anyway...

Cheers

Pete :(

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 8:50 am
by Sharp
So it's just a bog standard midi interface. Same as always only the Pa3X can now send 1 new parameter ? A song book value ?

Ok, that's easy to integrate into anything be it for Windows, Mac, Android or iOS.

Question I'd have next though is, how many people use the Song Book function. Nobody I know uses it. They all use the User Style / Favourites to recall setups for songs and quite often the same one is used for more than one song.

Regards
Sharp

Disappointed

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:16 am
by Tigs
That has got to be the most underwhelming eagerly awaited piece of software yet, and its not cheap. Add the cost of a cable of some description to connect an iPad and you are going to hit £60+.

As others have said, songbook is not difficult to use and there simpler ways to do this. I was at least expecting the ability to edit/move styles within the user section. I don't think I am going to hold my breath waiting for the software to do that, and if its priced the way this app is I won't be buying it.

Very disappointing Korg.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 10:28 am
by dimitris
Sharp wrote:So it's just a bog standard midi interface. Same as always only the Pa3X can now send 1 new parameter ? A song book value ?

Ok, that's easy to integrate into anything be it for Windows, Mac, Android or iOS.

Question I'd have next though is, how many people use the Song Book function. Nobody I know uses it. They all use the User Style / Favourites to recall setups for songs and quite often the same one is used for more than one song.

Regards
Sharp
Sharp you are wrong!
Everyone I know use Songbook!!
I use it always in gigs!!
It's a Great Function!!!

Regards,
Dimitris

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:39 pm
by keysman
dimitris wrote:
Sharp wrote:So it's just a bog standard midi interface. Same as always only the Pa3X can now send 1 new parameter ? A song book value ?

Ok, that's easy to integrate into anything be it for Windows, Mac, Android or iOS.

Question I'd have next though is, how many people use the Song Book function. Nobody I know uses it. They all use the User Style / Favourites to recall setups for songs and quite often the same one is used for more than one song.

Regards
Sharp
Sharp you are wrong!
Everyone I know use Songbook!!
I use it always in gigs!!
It's a Great Function!!!

Regards,
Dimitris
For gigs it's a must have :wink:
I have my playlists set up in songbook & use one of the programmable switches to load in the next song whilst playing & just simply slide the sequences 2 slider over & push the start button & hey presto the song starts exactly when I want it to. Do the same for the next song onto sequencer 1 & so on through the set list. As my song book entries are numbered if I want to deviate from the list just simply punch in the song number & there is the song that I need.
The Pa3X is simply brilliant for live gigs :lol:

Cheers
John

table would be nice

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:59 pm
by duby2
I for one use the Song Book function all the time for playing styles and to midi and mp3 ,and a tablet would be nice ,,, but I do not want to carry more equipment , the Pa3x is a all in one keyboard ,, if I would have to start to carry around the Ipad , well i would just play all midi and mp3 from it or play it all out of my iphone ,then I would stop buying korg keyboard ,

Re: table would be nice

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:09 pm
by Sam CA
duby2 wrote:... if I would have to start to carry around the Ipad , well i would just play all midi and mp3 from it or play it all out of my iphone ,then I would stop buying korg keyboard ,
ok, you only bought the PA3x so you could play bunch of midi and mp3???
Did you know the PA3x is primarily an arranger keyboard/Style player?

:facepalm:

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:52 pm
by jbd59
dimitris wrote:I posted the first PDF file.
Until previous OS's all PA series was just receiving control messages from tablet. With the new OS PA3X and PA900 can also send control messages to tablet.
you talk you talk , but you don't explain or show how !! are you from FBI ?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 3:09 pm
by Sharp
Sharp you are wrong!
Everyone I know use Songbook!!
lol... Wrong about what?

I asked a question which was I wonder how many use the song book because nobody I know uses it. I'm not saying that NOBODY in the world uses it, I'm saying nobody I know here uses it and that's also not just some random comment. Every Pa3X user in the south of Ireland has probably had me do custom work for them, so I'd have a pretty good idea of how most people in the south of Ireland are running their Pa3X. (bearing in mind Ireland is only 350 miles long)

There's a very good reason for them not to use it too "in their opinion". There's no clear direction on the Pa3X one should take for performing. You actually have 3 options which always confuses the heck out of most here when you try explain it to them.

Option 1: The Song Book.
We have the Song Book, which is a button you have to press and a list you have to scroll though, and then select your song, followed by a screen press. Now try doing all that while people are in front of you dancing and your in a hurry to get to the next song. There's simply no time and you cannot afford to stop the beat. Even if you had time it's so slow compared to the method people here actually use.

Option 2: Performances.
This is a very handy mode, but it confuses people because the performances are all named after instruments and not performances. People get confuses here between using performances to select sounds and the traditional way of simply touching the name of the sounds from the main display.

Option 3: Simply selecting a style.
Favourites and Users can be selected in realtime while the beat is still running and your instantly ready to play the next song. Sounds too are recalled (STS1 being the default) No stopping, no fumbling though song book lists. It's super direct and super quick.

It's just how it is here.

Even if you used Backing Tracks here (Midi/ Mp3) you would find it hard to find repeat bookings. Pubs owners know the difference now here and they won't pay a live band to play backing tracks. Live means live here.

Regards
Sharp.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 4:12 pm
by karmathanever
….and… if you do use SONGBOOK I fail to see the value in the iPad app when we have the SONGBOOK Editor and in fact I do 95% of my songbook editing onboard.

So, OK, who is going to invest the time and money to produce some really useful PA3X-related apps?
Is it a viable project?

OR should we just wait for the PA4X which will have a comprehensive suite of management and editing software (or not)? :wink:

Pete :D