Hi Guys,
I have just posted this on the Kronos forum, but I realized I might get better advice from the Oasys forum!
My Kronos 73 (serial number 1877) had some clunking keys, so I asked the store to order in a replacement... The replacement arrived today (serial 1864) and when I got it home, and set it up, to my total disappointment there are three keys which make a terrible clunking noise when played loudly.
Korg have offered to replace the keybed, but to be honest I can't except that I have spent $3,500 (Australian) only to have my new instrument immediately opened up for repairs.
As the Kronos is not my main synth and never used for piano, I am thinking it might be time to accept that there are lots of dud RH3 actions out there, and move to a Kronos 61 instead.
However, there is a "mint" Oasys 76 currently on eBay about an hour from where I live... Should I go with that instead?
I am not planning to gig with the Kronos so I don't need SST and set lists, and as far as I know everything else is the same on the Oasys.
I do have a few questions though....
Does Oasys include most of the sound engines (I realise some were only for the Kronos) or were they all paid extras?
Is the screen on the Oasys reliable... in terms of the display itself, but also the flip mechanism?
Are there any known issues with hard drives dying (I really prefer the solid state drive of the Kronos)?
I really don't know which way two go.... Kronos 61 is a compromise in length, and Oasys is a compromise as this particular one is 4 years old and I always find it scary to buy used gear...
What do you advise?
Cheers and thanks,
Mike
Two faulty Kronos 73s, should I get a used Oasys?
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The Oasys on the Central Coast is mine. You are wlecome to come up and have a play on it if you like, no obligation at all. It's easter weekend so a great time to come up and spend a day on the Coast, so why not call in for an hour or two ?
Bring up your Kronos and compare them side-by-side if you like. I have a PA3X here too that you can have a go on.
The Oasys on the Central Coast is mine. You are wlecome to come up and have a play on it if you like, no obligation at all. It's easter weekend so a great time to come up and spend a day on the Coast, so why not call in for an hour or two ?
Bring up your Kronos and compare them side-by-side if you like. I have a PA3X here too that you can have a go on.
Steve M
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Even though you tired of hassling with defective manufacturing…
(understandable) I'd stay with the Kronos until you get a key bed that works properly or get your money back, AND, if you never do receive a proper, NEW, perfectly functioning keybed write a letter to the head of KORG Aus and Korg Japan informing of your dissatisfaction and that you will not hesitate to speak unkindly about their products and or their cost cutting decisions to use cheap components that render their machines useless to anyone who might ask in person or in any forum on the internet. I have buttons on my '05 purchased Oasys 88 that have not worked almost from day one. Buttons/knobs/faders all cost pennies and still the manufacturers keep using the cheapest components, and it's not only KORG - I have had the same probs with some Kurzweil gear going back 15 years. Faulty technology out of the box no matter what the device is , is taking the concept of planned obsolecense too far.
The enhancements in the Kronos are numerous , one of which is the next generation of KARMA technology. You have additional functionality in the USB jacks for connectivity vs. the Oasys where one can ONLY use the USB ports to connect to external storage devices. You say you don't need " setlists" …… but how about in 3 mos. or 3 years ?
I believe you'd be well served with either provided that you take the manual page by page and learn all of the functionality built into each machine. If you only use a few sounds like pianos and strings, than just buy a piano with a some string patches like the SV-1. The Oasys AND the Kronos were designed for people to really get under the hood so to speak and create new things.
my 2¢ Schweats
(understandable) I'd stay with the Kronos until you get a key bed that works properly or get your money back, AND, if you never do receive a proper, NEW, perfectly functioning keybed write a letter to the head of KORG Aus and Korg Japan informing of your dissatisfaction and that you will not hesitate to speak unkindly about their products and or their cost cutting decisions to use cheap components that render their machines useless to anyone who might ask in person or in any forum on the internet. I have buttons on my '05 purchased Oasys 88 that have not worked almost from day one. Buttons/knobs/faders all cost pennies and still the manufacturers keep using the cheapest components, and it's not only KORG - I have had the same probs with some Kurzweil gear going back 15 years. Faulty technology out of the box no matter what the device is , is taking the concept of planned obsolecense too far.
The enhancements in the Kronos are numerous , one of which is the next generation of KARMA technology. You have additional functionality in the USB jacks for connectivity vs. the Oasys where one can ONLY use the USB ports to connect to external storage devices. You say you don't need " setlists" …… but how about in 3 mos. or 3 years ?
I believe you'd be well served with either provided that you take the manual page by page and learn all of the functionality built into each machine. If you only use a few sounds like pianos and strings, than just buy a piano with a some string patches like the SV-1. The Oasys AND the Kronos were designed for people to really get under the hood so to speak and create new things.
my 2¢ Schweats
lol!Davidb wrote:Indeed!!!Kontrol49 wrote:SCHWEATS wrote: I have buttons on my '05 purchased Oasys 88 that have not worked almost from day one.
Yes we all have.....
Its called the "Function" button
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Mike -
I'd say - persevere and stay with the Kronos. I'm an OASYS owner and love it, but one cannot but acknowledge the great advances of the Kronos sound capabilities over the already stunning basis of the OASYS engines and libraries.
Kronos has had it's hardware troubles and it looks like you have been right in the firing line - but in fairness to Korg - their historic track record of quality is there for all to see so the Kronos issues are probably a one off - and - Korg have been very proactive in offering repairs / solutions. So once you get a working Kronos, you can probably depend on it for a long time to come. In the very long term, even if Kronos ends up acting as a 'module' because you've placed it on the top shelf in your project studio for whatever reason- you will still have a stunning set of synth engines and libraries that will be every bit as sophisticated and useful even in 20 years or more.
So put your frustrations aside - I'd say you're through the worst of it, and Kronos is by far the best hardware synthesizer / workstation implementation in many a year, you really have an astounding piece of kit.
So in summary - stay with Kronos (and as said, I love my OASYS so this is no spurious advice - Kronos is to be taken very earnestly and your hardware issues aside and resolved, there is no better option).
Kevin.
I'd say - persevere and stay with the Kronos. I'm an OASYS owner and love it, but one cannot but acknowledge the great advances of the Kronos sound capabilities over the already stunning basis of the OASYS engines and libraries.
Kronos has had it's hardware troubles and it looks like you have been right in the firing line - but in fairness to Korg - their historic track record of quality is there for all to see so the Kronos issues are probably a one off - and - Korg have been very proactive in offering repairs / solutions. So once you get a working Kronos, you can probably depend on it for a long time to come. In the very long term, even if Kronos ends up acting as a 'module' because you've placed it on the top shelf in your project studio for whatever reason- you will still have a stunning set of synth engines and libraries that will be every bit as sophisticated and useful even in 20 years or more.
So put your frustrations aside - I'd say you're through the worst of it, and Kronos is by far the best hardware synthesizer / workstation implementation in many a year, you really have an astounding piece of kit.
So in summary - stay with Kronos (and as said, I love my OASYS so this is no spurious advice - Kronos is to be taken very earnestly and your hardware issues aside and resolved, there is no better option).
Kevin.
oh it was my impression the Oasys is below a Kronos technology wise. bit rate.. sample quality.. ect. ect. ect.. where it counts.. we want a keyboard that sounds good and has the ability to allow us to express our creative side. Sure the build quality of the Oasys is better but also a Kronos can be had for under 3000. Also the pc is dualcore, HT intel.. ddr800 fsb.. I would take a KRONOS over an Oasys any day of the week.. The Oasys piano is in the Kronos and I feel like deleting it.. Its horrible I think. BLA !
You know I just sent back for exchange a brand new Kronos61 because of a dead key.. Day 1.. Maybe they need to start letting China manufacture these so they can start being built right. Japan in my book is just overpriced and lacking quality. Now days some of the best things are made in China.. like most LED tvs, PS3, Iphones.. pc components.. I look around my room and I bet 90% of everything comes from China.. hahah
You know I just sent back for exchange a brand new Kronos61 because of a dead key.. Day 1.. Maybe they need to start letting China manufacture these so they can start being built right. Japan in my book is just overpriced and lacking quality. Now days some of the best things are made in China.. like most LED tvs, PS3, Iphones.. pc components.. I look around my room and I bet 90% of everything comes from China.. hahah
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It sounds bad, then you read the serials mentioned and you realise that both units are from the same batch !
So instead of giving you another unit afflicted with the RH3 problem, your reseller should have advised to send the one you had to after-sales service to get the rubbers changed. Granted, it means no synth for a while, and it's not ideal to send a machine for repair as soon as you've got it, but this cures the RH3 problem for good.
Bad advice from your reseller !
So instead of giving you another unit afflicted with the RH3 problem, your reseller should have advised to send the one you had to after-sales service to get the rubbers changed. Granted, it means no synth for a while, and it's not ideal to send a machine for repair as soon as you've got it, but this cures the RH3 problem for good.
Bad advice from your reseller !
You obviously did never load the EXs-2 Oasys Piano with over 500 MB of samples. Because it's not there on the Kronos, if you don' t load it from harddisc. If you are talking about the Piano in the so called "ROM", you are right, I did also delete it. It's just redundant and inferior stuff. But the EXs-2 Oasys Piano is extremely good and cuts through in every mix and in every live situation, much better than the Kronos SGX-1 Piano...tiggie_00 wrote: The Oasys piano is in the Kronos and I feel like deleting it.. Its horrible I think. BLA !
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+1Dany wrote:... the EXs-2 Oasys Piano is extremely good...tiggie_00 wrote: The Oasys piano is in the Kronos and I feel like deleting it.. Its horrible I think. BLA !
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if i recall kronos also has EXs-2 concert grand right???Dany wrote:You obviously did never load the EXs-2 Oasys Piano with over 500 MB of samples. Because it's not there on the Kronos, if you don' t load it from harddisc. If you are talking about the Piano in the so called "ROM", you are right, I did also delete it. It's just redundant and inferior stuff. But the EXs-2 Oasys Piano is extremely good and cuts through in every mix and in every live situation, much better than the Kronos SGX-1 Piano...tiggie_00 wrote: The Oasys piano is in the Kronos and I feel like deleting it.. Its horrible I think. BLA !
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Love my kronos 88 
Love my yamaha psr s910 as well
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Love my yamaha psr s910 as well
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Yes, that's what I meant to tell to Kronos users. The OASYS EXs-2 concert grand is really worth a try with the Kronos, especially in a band/live context, because it cuts through very, very well...1jordyzzz wrote:if i recall kronos also has EXs-2 concert grand right???Dany wrote:You obviously did never load the EXs-2 Oasys Piano with over 500 MB of samples. Because it's not there on the Kronos, if you don' t load it from harddisc. If you are talking about the Piano in the so called "ROM", you are right, I did also delete it. It's just redundant and inferior stuff. But the EXs-2 Oasys Piano is extremely good and cuts through in every mix and in every live situation, much better than the Kronos SGX-1 Piano...tiggie_00 wrote: The Oasys piano is in the Kronos and I feel like deleting it.. Its horrible I think. BLA !
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