MIDI-OX maps for KOPro external keyboard control

[RichF]

Hi everyone,

I've been working on some controller maps for the Kaossilator Pro, and I wanted to share them with you. When used with the MIDI-OX program, these will allow you to play the KOPro using an external MIDI controller. If you don't already have MIDI-OX, it's a free download at www.midiox.com , and it's a really indispensable program for all things MIDI.

Here are the downloads:

http://www.filedropper.com/kopro6-octavemap
http://www.filedropper.com/kopro8-octavemap

EDIT: These links are outdated... To get the maps, just email us at product_support@korgusa.com. Thanks!

There are a couple of caveats:

1. The maps are ONLY accurate in the key of C, with the scale set to chromatic, and the note range set to FULL.
2. The FULL octave range varies from Program to Program. Be sure to pick either the 6-octave or 8-octave map, depending on which Program you’re playing.
3. Playing legato doesn't work. Once the KOPro receives a note-off message, it will stop whatever notes you’re holding down. There is no last-note message priority.
4. The maps are not perfect, and could certainly be improved. Please feel free to do so, and post your results!

Thanks, and enjoy.
-Rich

[ak]

Links do not work!

[RichF]

I just tested them, they're working fine for me.

[ak]

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[4dnightmare]

Thank you for helping us - I found that program website a few days ago and saved the link (and I think I posted it on another thread). Contrary to most (but not all) the folks with MIDI concerns, I primarily want to run things OUT of my K-Pro and into external devices, primarily the Dave Smith Evolver and two older Electribes. Will it work correctly in this direction? I read the Pro Editor manual (I have ordered the Pro but it's still on the way) and got the feeling I can probably send stuff out to the Evolver more easily because it is a sequencer/synth. I read the MIDI portions of both manuals (Evolver and Pro Editor) and I'm not too smart but I think I might be able to pull it off......advice is still highly appreciated!

[4dnightmare]

The Midiox link didn't work because it contained a comma at the end. Remove that and the link will take you to their site.

[RichF]

Hi 4dnightmare,

These maps will only affect MIDI data received by the KOPro, not data sent from it. The Evolver and Electribes should work just fine being controlled by the KOPro, with no map needed. While you're in External Control mode (Shift + 8 ), the pad is sending note data. While outside of External Control, it's sending MIDI CC messages.

[4dnightmare]

That's good to hear, thank you! I kinda got that from the manual, but it's good to hear it from you. I love creating patterns and running them through interesting Evolver sound settings.....

[englishhermit]

Hi Rich.

Thanks for trying to get round the problem.

A couple of points.

Doesn't work on Leads, (A plays the next C above ) though Acoustics and Basses are fine as long as I reset the note range to FULL each time I change the program.

Note off doesn't work either.

I do understand that the KO-Pro was not originally designed for keyboard players but for loops and samples. But, now the X Axis is used to control pitch, playability and MIDI note on/off conformity have become an issue, as you may have noticed!

You seem to be well in at Korg. Any chance of a firmware upgrade in the near future?

[roxxx303]

Hi Rich,

1. Which sounds use the 6 Octave- and which use the 8 Octave-Patch?

2. I found an error in your 8 octave-map:
Note on min 34 and min 35 have a max-note of 36. This must be wrong!

Thanks for the Maps! It must have been a hard work to create all the mapping-entries!
Did you map it by trial and error or did you have a map from korg?

I appreciate it very much that you take care of the Korg-Customers and listen to their wishes!

Do You know if an OS-Update is planned/on the run?

Regards,
roxxx303

[englishhermit]

First an apology

The note off works fine. My Axiom 25 sends a #9* nn 00 instead of the proper #8* nn nn message which works fine with the maps. It just turns the volume off, not the note! That was the default setting. I'll have to see if I can fix it.

The 8-octave map is actually 7 octaves. 108 - 24 = 84 / 12 = 7!

I've been through the voices to see which ones are 6 and 7 respectively and below are my provisional results. I tested this with a one octave sequence from Cubase. I have yet to test it on the full range, but I don't foresee any changes. As you can see there are some which didn't conform to either the 6 or 7 octave map.

I'm working on a conversion script in VB. It's a lot more complicated than I first thought. Perhaps upgrading the firmware might not be so simple either.

Until then, if ever, I hope this helps.


Lead

L.000 Synth Lead
L.001 Sync
L.002 Sine Portamt
L.003 LFO Squ Lead
L.004 PWM Lead 7
L.005 Micro Lead 6
L.006 Mini Lead 7
L.007 Crazy Lead
L.008 Syn Decay
L.009 5th Lead
L.010 Basic Arp 7
L.011 Unison Lead
L.012 XMod Decay 7
L.013 Soft Lead 7
L.014 Deci X Lead
L.015 Talk 7
L.016 Syn Brass
L.017 5th Decay
L.018 MS20 Lead 7
L.019 Saw Lead 7
L.020 Fe-Voice 7
L.021 Ring Detune 7
L.022 Orange Lead
L.023 Dist Lead 7
L.024 5th Brass 7
L.025 Belec
L.026 Ambient Lead
L.027 LR 5th Lead
L.028 Tell Min 7
L.029 FeedbackLead 7
L.030 Sync Lead
L.031 Square Bell 7
L.032 Square Lead
L.033 Unison Sweep
L.034 3octave Lead 7
L.035 XY Scale
L.036 Digital Talk
L.037 LFO Lead 7
L.038 XMod SawLead
L.039 Pitch Mod

Acoustic

A.040 Vibraphone 6
A.041 Trumpet
A.042 Piano 6
A.043 Tape Flute 6
A.044 Dist Guitar 6
A.045 E.Piano 6
A.046 Glass Bell
A.047 Phase Clav
A.048 Digerido 6
A.049 Elec Sitar
A.050 Duo Strings 6
A.051 Jazz Guitar 6
A.052 Tenor Sax 6
A.053 Harmonica 6
A.054 Flute 6

Bass

B.055 House Bass
B.056 Slap Bass 6
B.057 Bad Bass
B.058 Disco Bass 6
B.059 Attack Bass
B.060 Hoover Bass
B.061 Talk Bass
B.062 AcousticBass 6
B.063 Simple Bass 6
B.064 Fat Bass
B.065 Elec Bass 6
B.066 Big Bass
B.067 Synth Bass
B.068 Sexy Bass 6
B.069 Kick Bass
B.070 Reso Bass
B.071 Acid Bass
B.072 Unison Bass 6
B.073 Boost Bass 6
B.074 XMod Bass 6
B.075 Fall Bass
B.076 Zap Bass 6
B.077 Ring Bass 6
B.078 Square Bass 6
B.079 DistSawBass 6
B.080 MG Bass 6
B.081 Bit Bass
B.082 Stereo Bass 6
B.083 Valve Bass 6
B.084 Organ Bass 6

Chords

C.085 Filter Chord
C.086 Side Chain
C.087 ArpeggioSine 6
C.088 Wurly Chord 6
C.089 Guitar Chord
C.090 E.Guitar Hit
C.091 Pad Chord 1 6
C.092 UM Sequence
C.093 2039 6
C.094 Filter Mod 6
C.095 Decay Chord 6
C.096 ArpeggioDown
C.097 Electro Stab 6
C.098 Synth Chord 6
C.099 Motion Chord 6
C.100 ArpeggioPuls
C.101 Phaser Chord 6
C.102 EL Chord 6
C.103 Chord Seq
C.104 FilterMod5th 6
C.105 Pad Chord 2 6
C.106 DecaySynChod
C.107 Trance Chord 6
C.108 Sine Chord 6
C.109 Organ Chord 6
C.110 Sweep Chord 6
C.111 Power Chord 6
C.112 BPF Chord
C.113 E Piano Chord
C.114 Chord Hit

[salamanderanagram]

ahh nevermind....

(for clarity, i posted an idea i had that will actually not work. :/

[roxxx303]

@englishhermit:

Thanks for your Investigations!

How shall Your VB-program work?
I am working on a VST-plugin which you can just put in your DAW.
So you can play the KPro by an external Midi-Keyboard AND you can simply play midi-note-clips in your DAW which are mapped through the VST-Plugin and output to the KPro.
I am working with Ableton Live 8 and my first tests were fine!

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@RichF:

How many octaves have the rest of the sounds?

It's a pitty that not all sounds - when set to full range - have the same octave range!

Do you have a mapping-info for 4 Octaves?

Thanks! - roxxx303

[englishhermit]

roxxx303

As it stands, I can record the performance MIDI data to Cubase and play it back perfectly. I can correct timing errors but I cannot edit the note data except by using the List Editor. It doesn't appear on the Key Editor because it isn't standard note on/off data.

The VB program will convert the internal pitch data into note on/off data so it can be recorded, edited and played back again in the DAW. It is not designed to be used as a keyboard controller, just to edit the data from the KO-PRO as I want to be able to tidy up my XY pad performance. I could use my keyboard and the modulation wheel through the DAW instead, but it is the simplicity of the XY pad that appeals to me.

So far it works for a single instrument over one octave note range and both ways in Ionian and Dorian scales, not using mapping, but some simple arithmetic. I didn't want to use mapping which means changing the scale and note range for playback, but keep the KO-PRO in the mode in which I recorded.

The maths gets more complicated once I change the range or instrument. So the next job is to capture the performance data and export it to a spreadsheet so I can have a close look at the relationships. I think it may have to be done with look up tables instead.

I don't have access to the KO-PRO tech spec so I have to adopt this approach and analyse the data. It's a challenge but I used to work as a data analyst before I retired so it's fun too.

Does the machine control me or do I control the machine?

[bsnrich]

I followed the links

http://www.filedropper.com/kopro6-octavemap
http://www.filedropper.com/kopro8-octavemap

and they took me to the

http://www.filedropper.com

page. I tried to do a search for the files but they could not be found. Is there a way to locate this files, or a direct link somewhere?????

Please help!!!!!

Thanks