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Is it possible to speed up loading the EXB1-4?
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:35 pm
by djkoelkast
Well, everybody noticed that booting up the M3 takes ages, especially with autoloading EXB1-4.
I just got my M3-73, it came with XPanded 2.0.0 software and the EXB-Radias (which I really love!). After 2 days I bought the EXB-M256 and hooked up a USB flash pendrive to provide the EXB1-4 sounds. Although I think it's really annoying that the M3 doesn't store this in memory at least when it's plugged in, there's not much to do about that, so can I speed up the loading process?
Maybe buy me a 2,5" HDD (7200rpm) with an enclosure? Or is it something else that makes it so slow, it takes minutes now...
Re: Is it possible to speed up loading the EXB1-4?
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:24 pm
by Shakil
djkoelkast wrote: Although I think it's really annoying that the M3 doesn't store this in memory at least when it's plugged in, there's not much to do about that, so can I speed up the loading process?
This is the case with ALL samplers. The samples have to be loaded into memory at startup.
The only thing you can try is to 'AutoLoad' and try a different USB 2.0 flash drive.
Re: Is it possible to speed up loading the EXB1-4?
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:46 pm
by djkoelkast
Shakil wrote:djkoelkast wrote: Although I think it's really annoying that the M3 doesn't store this in memory at least when it's plugged in, there's not much to do about that, so can I speed up the loading process?
This is the case with ALL samplers. The samples have to be loaded into memory at startup.
The only thing you can try is to 'AutoLoad' and try a different USB 2.0 flash drive.
Not ALL, my roland SP-555, which is a sampler, never has to reload samples from the CF card, it reads them from the CF card on the fly.
Will the harddrive be a fast and good idea or is the datatransfer limited by the M3? I already have the Autoload function on for all 4 expansions (and I love them!)
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:48 am
by sorinv
Maybe buy me a 2,5" HDD (7200rpm) with an enclosure?
Spare your money... I even tried a velociraptor with enclosure! The difference is about 1-2 secs for OS and all exb's. M3's internal bandwith is the "weak link".
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:22 pm
by J.Q
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:50 pm
by djkoelkast
That's certainly worth a try, thanks!
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:08 pm
by Shakil
djkoelkast... yes you are right about the Roland SP series.. I meant RAM based samplers... (Except YAMAHA EX5 16MB Flash RAM and the Kurzweil PC3K 128MB Flash Ram)
SP series streams from flash cards. But, then you loose polyphony, multisampling and velocity layering.
For loops based samples nothing beats SP series... auto-bpm, no loading time.... no match there.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:36 pm
by djkoelkast
I use my SP555 as jingle player in my radio studio, fits the purpose
At the moment I have my M3 module opened up, removed the SD and copied everything on a Sandisk Extreme III 2GB, including the EXB stuff, let's have a look what it does

Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:56 pm
by djkoelkast
So it works!
It isn't flying, but it did speed up *a lot* compared to the old way (USB Flash drive).
I've made some pictures.
Here's the beast opened up:
The old and the new card:
There goes the new one:
At least is it booting straight away:
Loading the EXBs:
I'm really happy now

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:35 am
by Shakil
Hey that's great!
Thanks for letting us know that it did speed up. Maybe it's due to the type of SD Card you are using.
Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:00 am
by djkoelkast
Shakil wrote:Hey that's great!
Thanks for letting us know that it did speed up. Maybe it's due to the type of SD Card you are using.
Yeah, it's one of the fastest cards still out there. I wasn't able to find the recommended Transcend 150x speed, so I thought this Extreme III card would be good too, and so it is.
Expanded memory
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 am
by BillyB
If I add the 256MB memory expanion...will I be able to load ALL three KORG kep files and then some?
Re: Expanded memory
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 10:16 am
by djkoelkast
BillyB wrote:If I add the 256MB memory expanion...will I be able to load ALL three KORG kep files and then some?
Yes, you are. That's what I did too.
Actually there are four of them.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:09 pm
by M3Yogi
Could you please tell us the before and after load time in seconds? Thanks
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:16 pm
by apex
I've read about this before and I know they reference that it may void your warranty. Does anyone know for sure if it voids it or not?