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Hay folks..

Is it possible to use M3's 'Stereo Grand 4-Way EX3' piano patch (On M3 Expanded) in M50?? As far as I know they have the same synthesis engine (EDS=Enhance Definition Synthesis) though M50 doesn't have sampling engine. Have anyone tried to use the M3 expanded PCG on M50?? Or is it possible??

The piano on M3 expanded is way too awesome...

Not possible. The Xpanded Piano on the M3 uses new samples, which the M50 can't load...

No luck this time hah.. Thanks anyway..
Is there any good piano patch for M50 available in the web?? I am dying to have one.. A good GRAND PIANO...!!

Everyone's quest for a 'good grand piano' sound is confusing me. In 40 years of playing I've never heard 2 pianos sound alike. They may be similar, but never exactly alike. Why look for that one sound?

Good piano sounds are relative. What I think is good you may hate. I think my old steinway upright grand sounds better than the conventional grands on the showroom floors. But that's just my opinion. Then again, there're cheap consoles that sound awesom with the right peron playing them.

Personally, I think the M50 or M3 patchs sounds great by themselvesm ,but again, that's just me. I get a kick out of layering the piano sounds in a combi and looking for new piano sounds.

I guess too each his own.

Aaah.. It sounds great to me.. You are the person I was looking for because experience really does matter to me..

Can you please share some of your piano patches with me..? I'll will always be greatful to you..

Kyobanim wrote:Everyone's quest for a 'good grand piano' sound is confusing me. In 40 years of playing I've never heard 2 pianos sound alike. They may be similar, but never exactly alike. Why look for that one sound?

Good piano sounds are relative. What I think is good you may hate. I think my old steinway upright grand sounds better than the conventional grands on the showroom floors. But that's just my opinion. Then again, there're cheap consoles that sound awesom with the right peron playing them.

Personally, I think the M50 or M3 patchs sounds great by themselvesm ,but again, that's just me. I get a kick out of layering the piano sounds in a combi and looking for new piano sounds.

I guess too each his own.

+1

I also think the M50's piano patches are great (especially if you experiment with layering them in combi's and adding the right fx)

Although I do admit that my only home studio-references are a Roland E-28, an MC505 and Reason's Grand Piano (yes, the M50 rules them all big time)

Rishat wrote:Hay folks..

Is it possible to use M3's 'Stereo Grand 4-Way EX3' piano patch (On M3 Expanded) in M50?? As far as I know they have the same synthesis engine (EDS=Enhance Definition Synthesis) though M50 doesn't have sampling engine. Have anyone tried to use the M3 expanded PCG on M50?? Or is it possible??

The piano on M3 expanded is way too awesome...

I bought the M50 88 which I love, the action the Combis/Programs, etc. There are several acoustic piano programs and I like Prg A022 a lot because it has a warm tone for jazz. I like the others one too, but each one is different.

I have never played or heard a Korg M3 to compare my M50 with or a Triton. Is there that much difference in sound with each of these keyboards, especially acoustic pianos? Thanks

katt

if you like the way the EX3's piano programs from the M3 play, you CAN put the programs on the M50. You would have to use the M50's piano samples, and it wouldn't sound exactly the same, but in many ways it would react similarly to the EX3 piano. Who knows, maybe what you like about the EX3 piano is actually in the programming, and not in the sample.

nitekatt2010 wrote:
I have never played or heard a Korg M3 to compare my M50 with or a Triton. Is there that much difference in sound with each of these keyboards, especially acoustic pianos? Thanks

katt

I have an M3, really the difference in the quality isn't that much different from the M50. It's just... different. I like having the variety. The M50's sample is excellent, I use it a great deal on the M3. It has a great personality that you don't typically hear in a keyboard workstation. But like someone above stated, takes on piano samples are VERY subjective. some people say the M50 sample sounds choppy, like the samples are taken from different pianos. i think it sounds beautiful.

I've also had a KARMA and a Triton Extreme. The difference between the M50's piano and all of the Tritons is like night and day. The Triton Extreme actually has 3 piano samples. The original Triton sample, the EXB-PCM08 sample (velocity-switching bosendorfer), and a Steinway Grand. I liked them both, they each had their own uses, but the M50's blows them all out of the water.

Here's a good example of the two:

Triton Extreme Steinway:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/toi41ltgz ... treme).mp3

Triton Extreme Bosendorfer:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wz2m2mymj ... pcm08).mp3

They're good, and convincing, but they're kinda hollow sounding compared to the M's pianos.

Man ..i got ur motif sample...its nice and tnx....but let me be honest

korg has its distinct piano prog which is unlike the ones that come loaded in yamaha electronic keyboards but very similar to the acoustic piano made by yamaha...pls listen to yiruma playing live in youtube...

the sound of acoustic piano seems nowhere close to piano patches located deep inside yamaha electronic gears...but very similar to m50 piano patch ...

yamaha has this electronic simulation of piano,and this is too refined to be possible in acoustic piano making.Acoustic piano (even yamaha make) sounds much "unrefined" and they have an inherent mechanical noise in them...all acoustic pianos do....

but widespread video demo of motif piano sound available over internet has convinced many people like u ,into believing that the acoustic piano should sound the way motif makers want it to be or in other words motif piano sounding patch is the only benchmark of piano....

i consider the motif piano to be the shittiest sample...and now yamaha claims xf sample is superior to xs...and 1 day in future which is very near,they would say xf sample is no longer nice...buy our new xf successor....and so on


by the way xf or xs version of motif,any1 of them would do however if made to connect to 3 different speakers of different manufacturers in an experiment would sound different.by this xperimnt we can infer that there is no such thing called tru piano sample .



check out people playing acoustic grand on youtube and i am sure u will realize that the sound of acoustic pianos from even yamaha are totally different from yamaha electronic gear's piano patches.

Just a quick note,

I too was looking for different piano sounds, and I found an excellent collection of custom programs from Kim Lajoie. Here is a link to his original post:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ight=piano

I found a few voices in this collection that I simply cannot live without. It makes for a very nice addition to the stock M50 pianos.

I hope this is helpful!

Gargamel314 wrote:if you like the way the EX3's piano programs from the M3 play, you CAN put the programs on the M50. You would have to use the M50's piano samples, and it wouldn't sound exactly the same, but in many ways it would react similarly to the EX3 piano. Who knows, maybe what you like about the EX3 piano is actually in the programming, and not in the sample.

This is a good point. A lot of people dismiss the M3/M50 pianos on the basis of the factory programs and combis. There's actually a lot of scope for customising and modifying the sound and feel - Korg's EDS synthesis is more flexible for sound sculpting than Yamaha's and Roland's engines. Of course, you can't add something that isn't there to begin with, but Korg's pianos samples are actually more flexible than most people realise.

-Kim.