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Hi Guys.. Does anyone know if it is possible to use the onboard vocoder to produce vocal harmony..as in normal harmony

I really don't think so to be honest.

With the Vocoder your voice is the modulator, not the carrier. You would have to produce one hell of a pure tone to get the carrier to sound like your voice. Then there's the problem of having to play the harmony live along with your voice.

Regards.
Sharp.

Thanks for this one too Sharp. Guess I might go for a plugin then. Seems to be the cheapest way to go. Jus install it in my recording software when thats up and running.

Did you see this little puppy ?

http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicetoneharmonym.asp

The sound pretty good to me and they are rather cheap.

Regards.
Sharp.

Veeeeeeeeeery interesting I'll check it out. Sand shoe berry bunch Sharp

Did I get this right: this little box only adds voices according to the chords played, but it does not alter the main voice (like pitch correction etc.)?

Yes, and in addition to that it allows you to double track your voice.

Double tracking is where you sing over yourself in the Studio to thicken up your voice. This little box does that in real-time.

Regards.
Sharp.

Yep - I often dub my singers - but do it "the traditional way", which is sometimes quite time-consuming, until the 2 voices fit good enough.

I know this is off topic, but Sharp, do you know any affordable tools, that produce good, natural sounding pitch correction? I had a look at TC some months ago, but the stuff offered back then seemed to be targeted for guitarists or rather sophisticated, whereas the box described here is easy to handle, comparatively cheap and for keyboarders. I'd like such a tool including pitch-correction.

Charlie,

You may have been talking about the TC Helicon Voice Pro, when you were talking about the "sophisticated" one.

I have just discovered it this past week and think I will be getting it for my studio. I have been looking for something like this for awhile, just didn't know where it was lurking. All the reviews I have read indicate that it indeed performs true to life voice alteration and can also produce any number of tricks including gender bending, pitch shift, 4 part harmony, and carries its own internal effects which can also be used with any offboard sound sources, etc. With 275 factory presets it can be as simple as dialing in the preset you want, but it also has room for another 275 user generated presets if you care to dabble.

I'm going to add one to my studio sometime next year.

Just FYI.

Ken

Yes, Ken - that was one of the "sophisticated" ones. And BTW: wasn't it launched in 2005 - is this still up to date? (Yeah - I know when the Oasys was launched ).

Charlie,

You are correct, it was launched in 2005. Based on my current research, nothing else that I'm aware of holds a candle to it unless it is the Eventide H8000 series for $5K+.

The 2 more current TC Helicon products voice works and voice works plus are spinoffs of the Voice Pro but do not challenge it.

If all you are looking for is pitch correction you might try the "TC Helicon Voice Tone Correct". It's aimed at live stage use but could certainly be used in the recording process too.

Ken

Have fun!

Charlie,

Just one other thought. Have you ever tried double mic-ing the talent?

I do this alot but with 2 different mics. In addition to the main track mic, I'll pick a second mic that has complementery characteristics that I'd like to hear more of and run it down another track. It multiplies your options in editing enormously.

That, of course, does nothing to correct for pitch or reduce takes, but it's a great way for thickening a vocal track.

Ken

Hi Charlie.

I know this is off topic, but Sharp, do you know any affordable tools, that produce good, natural sounding pitch correction?

If you like the design of that little harmony box, then you can get one that offers Pitch Correction and a few other tools suitable for vocals.

Try this for example.
http://www.tc-helicon.com/voicetonecorrect.asp

Regards.
Sharp.

Thanx for the link, Sharp!

I'm sure many of you have already heard of it but check out melodyne.
This is one of the most commonly used pitch correction program in the pop/r&b world today...awesome!

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=358

Also-To Charlie: Check out the plug-in vocAlign...all the big boys use it...its amazing!! Basically it aligns two ( or more ) different vocal performances with the greatest of ease. I use it on all the singers and rappers I record--in EVERY session...works great for multiple comped tracks...actually it works wonders for vocals period!

http://www.synchroarts.com/products/voc ... calign.asp