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Will a (Future) upgrade be able to take 4 Gig ram?
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:51 pm
by AnthonyB
Hello,
Was looking out for Ram chips with more than 1gig of memory, that match up to Korgs' recommendations (184-pin DIMM, DDR PC3200 "CL3")
Well, I found this Ram stick here
2GB, 184-pin DIMM, DDR PC3200 memory module
Well?, could it be integrated in a future upgrade?, was wondering. Not cheap, perhaps, but would be nice to impliment 4 gigs in the OASYS
AnthonyB
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:04 pm
by Sharp
I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere on the forum that the mother board did not support 4GB. So KORG couldn't even do that if they wanted to.
I could be wrong now !!!!. But I seem to remember this for some reason.
That said... I'd personally prefer streaming of samples.
Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:14 pm
by AnthonyB
Sharp wrote:I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere on the forum that the mother board did not support 4GB. So KORG couldn't even do that if they wanted to.
I could be wrong now !!!!. But I seem to remember this for some reason.
That said... I'd personally prefer streaming of samples.
Regards.
Sharp.
Seems to be a similar thing to Windows XP (32bit) systems as well, in that 4 Gigs will only get read as 3 gigs I understand. Would be nice though!. As for streaming, well, would the 5400 RPM Hard drive cut it?, (at least i "think" it's 5400 anyway, like a normal laptop.)
Well, maybe we could use one stick (2gigs) in one slot, and some sort of "ROM" chip in the other, to retain samples when turned off
AnthonyB
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:57 pm
by Sharp
As for streaming, well, would the 5400 RPM Hard drive cut it?,
I think so.
A 5400 RPM Hard drive should push out 16MB/s easily. Add to that actual RAM usage, I'd say it's very possible.
KORG could even only make the option available to external drives connected to the USB port. Just thinking out loud
Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:00 am
by Sharp
I wonder if they could make use of the PCI slots inside in some way too ?.
A custom card with additional ram for streaming maybe ?
Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:54 am
by RobertPlatinum
How about using the PCI Slots to hold effects similar to the UAD products.
How about making the Waves Mercury Bundle available w/ the pci slots. And the PCI cards having their own processing power for the plugs.
Farfetched idea I know. The Point is Korg can really do some interesting things with those PCI slots.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:55 am
by RobertPlatinum
That is correct about the motherboard only supporting up to 2gigs.
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:19 pm
by kenackr
AnthonyB wrote:
Seems to be a similar thing to Windows XP (32bit) systems as well, in that 4 Gigs will only get read as 3 gigs I understand. Would be nice though!. As for streaming, well, would the 5400 RPM Hard drive cut it?, (at least i "think" it's 5400 anyway, like a normal laptop.)
Well, maybe we could use one stick (2gigs) in one slot, and some sort of "ROM" chip in the other, to retain samples when turned off.
Martin Hines posted in another thread (see link below) that he had done searches on the hardware and discovered the Hard drive was a fujitsu
4200 rpm unit. elvisjohndowson also posted it was 4200 in that same thread.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ght=%2Arpm
Ken
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:13 pm
by ldascanio
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Martin Hines posted in another thread (see link below) that he had done searches on the hardware and discovered the Hard drive was a fujitsu
4200 rpm unit. elvisjohndowson also posted it was 4200 in that same thread.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ght=%2Arpm
Ken[/quote]
Here is the model and specs for the HD used in Oasys
http://193.128.183.41/HOME/v3__product.asp?pid=345&L=en
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:22 am
by elvisjohndowson
Hi,
The original hard drive is a 4200RPM unit, but I replaced mine with a faster 7200RPM 60GB hitachi drive. It's much faster loading the EXs now and its really quite simple to upgrade the hard disk, once you've cloned it's contents.
Elvis
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:36 am
by sirCombatWombat
elvisjohndowson wrote:Hi,
The original hard drive is a 4200RPM unit, but I replaced mine with a faster 7200RPM 60GB hitachi drive. It's much faster loading the EXs now and its really quite simple to upgrade the hard disk, once you've cloned it's contents.
Elvis
What about the noise? I can just hear the 4200RPM HDD through the OASYS cooling fan, are the 7200RPM drives noisier? And I'm thinkin it could also generate more heat and thus increase the cooling fan RPM?
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:44 am
by sirCombatWombat
Um, forgot to ask.
What software you used to clone the HDD? And did you clock the startup time before and after?
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:59 pm
by Drew FM
If you want streaming sample speed that will blow any HD out of the water, there is nothing preventing the Oasys from being upgraded to one of those new 2.5" Ram drives, however they are still quite expensive right now.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:50 am
by ldascanio
Drew FM wrote:If you want streaming sample speed that will blow any HD out of the water, there is nothing preventing the Oasys from being upgraded to one of those new 2.5" Ram drives, however they are still quite expensive right now.
Just the interface. The newer and faster SDDs are serial ATA, not supported on the Oasys Motherboard. You can still get good ones using PATA specifications, but the trend is moving faster and faster to the SATA interface
Once they become really accesible to the general public probably most or all of them will be using SATA.
In fact, Oasys motherboard supports PATA 33/66/100. PATA 133 is not supported. Fastest SDDs will be limited by the interface as they are already surpassing the 100 Mb/s barrier for some tasks.
Rgds.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:02 pm
by elvisjohndowson
sirCombatWombat wrote:Um, forgot to ask.
What software you used to clone the HDD? And did you clock the startup time before and after?
I used Acronis Disk Director. There was no perceptable noise increase. I didnt time it, but I think it's about 1.75 times faster than the 4200RPM one.