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Program sustain

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:18 pm
by UCanDream
Hi everyone.

Just a quick rookie question I should know the answer to... In program mode, where is the sustain on-off feature? I'm using a stock sound that doesn't employ sustain but I need to enable it. Thanks in advance.

~David

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:59 pm
by voip
There is no Damper on off in Program mode, as far as I'm aware, since all that is necessary is to keep one's foot off the damper pedal. In Combi mode, there are Enable Damper check boxes for each Timbre in the MIDI filters tab. If the Oasys is being used as a controller of other synths that require Damper, then put the Program into a blank Combi, and set Damper off that way.

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:17 pm
by UCanDream
Hi voip.

Thank you for your reply. Program mode does, in fact, have a damper feature that can be engaged or disengaged. That is why, as an example, Program A 000 (Oasys Piano) can be sustained yet A 050 (Screaming Tube Guitar) does not sustain. I simply can't locate the option to engage sustain for A 050. It's somewhere in the mountain of programmable parameters, lol. I thought I looked everywhere but I will keep searching.


Thanks again.
~D

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:29 am
by nitecrawler
UCanDream wrote:Hi voip.

Thank you for your reply. Program mode does, in fact, have a damper feature that can be engaged or disengaged. That is why, as an example, Program A 000 (Oasys Piano) can be sustained yet A 050 (Screaming Tube Guitar) does not sustain. I simply can't locate the option to engage sustain for A 050. It's somewhere in the mountain of programmable parameters, lol. I thought I looked everywhere but I will keep searching.


Thanks again.
~D
Dave, I fired my Oasys and brought up A50 and, sure enough, no sustain. Started monkeying around and noticed if I turned off the lighted Karma switch (upper left hand) Karma surface switch; I suddenly had sustain when I used the damper pedal. Go figure. By the way good to see you on line. Been awhile. Hope this helps.

And old Colorado guy now retired to Arizona, Eric 8)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:46 am
by UCanDream
Hi Eric.

Many thanks for your reply. I did find it odd as well that disengaging Karma remedied the sustain issue. But it worked and thank you again. I would still find value in where to find that sneaky little damper on/off in the programming parameters. For the life of me I would have thought it would have been easy to find. In any event -- onward with more composing.


~David

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:53 am
by voip
The inability to disable the Damper pedal in Programs is also the case in the Kronos, including the Screaming Tube Guitar Program, which is influenced by KARMA in what would appear to be the same way as the OASYS. The lack of Damper on/off in Program mode is also to be found in other keyboards, including the M3 and M50, so it's not simply a quirk of programming in the OASYS OS.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:03 pm
by UCanDream
In program mode there are many sounds that employ the damper and others that do not. In combi mode, KARMA did have an effect on this feature when turned off as noted above. But the programs I am going thru either use sustain or they don't so I am convinced that the option is buried somewhere in the programming parameters. I beginning to think I am either blind or stupid, lol! I am still hopeful that someone will see this and will chime in.

Many thanks.
~David

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:25 pm
by bpoodoo
Could this be an ADSR setting in the program AMP envelopes, or an Alternative Modulation Source set to Damper modifying the AMP output? IDK.