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The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:45 am
by korgpask
The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!

Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.

"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model.
Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!!


Boot creator ....
chord detection from midi ....
internal HDD - ssd ...
adaptive microphone setup....
and many more...

KORG decided not to put it there.
Therefore, those who hope that the Pa5X will have everything that the Pa4X had, just wait to see if that will be the case.

I personally don't want such a Pa5X even for free. I can't use it to do what I need to compose, compose, produce, rework, edit, ....
Unreliability of micro SD.


my transition to Pa5X will only be ! if KORG adds to the Pa5X all the functions that the Pa4X has !!! otherwise not...

to wait almost half a year to solve the little things is unthinkable!!!
very slow responses from KORG are in this condition of the Pa5X SCARY, UNACCEPTABLE for me.

The next OS update is due in DECEMBER ??

until then what???

I'm waiting for Pa6X :-)

So Pa5X is NOT a sequel to Pa4X .....

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:10 am
by karmathanever
korgpask wrote:The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!
Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.
"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model.
Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!!
It "solves" absolutely nothing but merely adds to the confusion although it would solve a lot of things for Korg as they would not need to change anything - just leave it as is.
You say "...I don't want to be mean...." so I gather then that YOU ARE KORG? (of course you're not!! :wink: I wish you were!!)
Again and again and again and again I ask - where does all this type of information come from?
So many conflicting rumours which no-one will confirm or justify.

Next update in September, er, no, November, er no, December, er no early next year
Distributors saying they have not heard about any problems.
Missing features are actually there, just not implemented yet (so the above quoted rumour kills this rumour!!! ](*,) )


I think we've put up with enough rumours to last a lifetime.

For me, if it's not in "Korg News" then it doesn't exist and it's a waste of energy speculating.
All these rumours are pushing me further and further away..... and I'm beginning to feel quite concerned for those who have already purchased it.
korgpask wrote:I'm waiting for Pa6X
Might put my order in now - should arrive at about the same time as my personal telegram from the King :wink:

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@ korgpask
Completely empathise with your comments - this whole thing is very frustrating...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:32 am
by Sam CA
I have the same question as Pete's .

Where does this quote come from? Because even the name of the instrument boldly suggests the Pa5x is very much so the next generation of the Pa4x and that entire line. Now if they called it Korg KIWI 2000, then you could argue this is a brand new instrument that's got nothing to do with the rest. Just like the workstation series.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 am
by karmathanever
Aha!! The Korg KIWI 2000 - obviously designed and built not that far from me :wink:

As this news is coming from you, SAM, it is definitely not a rumour.... I'm excited!!

:D

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:22 am
by AntonySharmman
Do not worry for new Pa5X owners , they will be soon rewarded for their purchase
and the whole mislead speculation information will be vanished ...

All published highlights will soon work flawlessly and all will revise your reviews , so be patient
don't waste your time and enjoy your current Pa4X until the moment you will upgrade it.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:21 pm
by D575
AntonySharmman wrote:Do not worry for new Pa5X owners , they will be soon rewarded for their purchase
and the whole mislead speculation information will be vanished ...

All published highlights will soon work flawlessly and all will revise your reviews , so be patient
don't waste your time and enjoy your current Pa4X until the moment you will upgrade it.
Come on Antony surely you can do better than that? with out source and details this could easily be seen as a dismissive, inflammatory and some what arrogant response...

But... i am sure you did not mean it to sound that way??...

So perhaps you could revise and fill in the important missing details for us here ???

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:08 pm
by AntonySharmman
Nope , but all haters can do it better , all you will see working after official OS release (since this is a beta one) , are written there
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=127306

Re: The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:36 pm
by MikeVVught
korgpask wrote:The KORG Pa5X is not a continuation of the Pa4X !!!

Hi, I don't want to be mean, but this message solved many things. This sentence.

"It should be noted that KORG has developed a new Pa5X instrument and this instrument is not a continuation of the Pa4X model.
For hardware, yes it is. Look at https://www.elmarherz.de/alfred-2.htm#2. No significant changes.
Therefore, do not look for the functions that Pa4X has in Pa5X !!!


Boot creator ....
chord detection from midi ....
internal HDD - ssd ...
adaptive microphone setup....
and many more...

KORG decided not to put it there.
I don't know where you get your information from. When you read the announcement Korg wrote prior to the introduction of the Pa5X it should be working already in the Pa5X. It is not, but maybe better it is still not. It is not known what shall be implemented in next update. Korg doesn't tell anything about that.
I'm waiting for Pa6X :-)

So Pa5X is NOT a sequel to Pa4X .....
In short: I disagree with you...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:40 pm
by D575
AntonySharmman wrote:Nope , but all haters can do it better , all you will see working after official OS release (since this is a beta one) , are written there
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=127306
Anthony are you a Official Representatives for Korg now ?

If you are saying "since this is a beta one" have i then purchased a New Pa5X with a BETA Operating System ??

And your comment "but all the haters can do better" who are you specifically directing this at please ???

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:48 pm
by thomasteele
I hope it can convert the styles i have made from pa4x ,at the moment it takes over an hour to import and not all of the styles in favourites nor user samples cannot be loaded so you have to load the full set . I do not like the hard drive system so far

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:59 pm
by AntonySharmman
Thomas , follow instructions of http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=127577
For the rest divert your complaints to Korg Japan management that obviously forced Italian department
to release an arranger with unfinished OS !

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:05 pm
by iOpus
I think it is unnecessary to discuss such topics - he heard, he didn't hear. We need to realize that when we bought Pa5x and saw the mess we are in, we are now going to play the dance that follows for the next extended period. Learn how to survive this period as easily as possible.
I see on YouTube some guys playing songs with the new Pa5x and enjoying themselves. They also recorded the same songs with the previous keyboards. One man explains how to make a simple style on a PA5x (kids 20 years ago on a PA80 did that) but doesn't mention that there is no quantizer in the style edit section.
The first testers (they are the most guilty for me) advertised themselves on youtube and did a great job on Korg, we like a blind man for a stick
If they do nothing, we should know that this is also possible. If they had keyboards wich hanging around stores they wouldn't be ignoring us like this. A cat ate their tongue (Korg team), it's called in my place

If someone laughs at you with Pa4x, don't get angry, they were smarter, right Pete? :)
Keep smiling and wait.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:40 pm
by Sam CA
karmathanever wrote:Aha!! The Korg KIWI 2000 - obviously designed and built not that far from me :wink:

As this news is coming from you, SAM, it is definitely not a rumour.... I'm excited!!

:D

Damn it! I violated my NDA again! I might as well come clean guys. Remember that backyard barbeque Pa5x video? That was me. :oops:

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:39 pm
by kbrkr
Let's all count 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 ->???

I think a 5 is the next number as compared to

Tyros 3 -> Tyros 4 -> Tyros 5 -| Genos = New Generation

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:58 pm
by D575
AntonySharmman wrote:Thomas , follow instructions of http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... p?t=127577
For the rest divert your complaints to Korg Japan management that obviously forced Italian department
to release an arranger with unfinished OS !
Forgive me but why would I continue divert to korg who only tiptoe round the issues and when you are clearly taking the lead on the behalf of Korg round here...

So it is only logical that I respond to your comments or are you missing some Key Fundamental Points when considering this debacle which Korg has created when you make your remarks ?