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Kronos sighting: Yes at RnR Hall of Fame

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:58 pm
by Bitflipper
Great performance featuring Geddy Lee on bass...I have just one question: how does Wakeman get those great organ sounds? Running through a real Leslie, perhaps?

OK, two questions: how do you link a YouTube video on this forum?

http://youtu.be/t1-NsnlPc54

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:14 pm
by Derek Cook
But Wakeman did not have a Leslie in site on the ARW tour (I was there in Cardiff), so it must have come from the synths or some pedal (like a vent) that was not obvious.

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:14 pm
by Bitflipper
Of course, not seeing a Leslie doesn't mean there wasn't one, either backstage or disguised.

Do you agree that the organ tones he's getting in the video are better than what comes stock out of the CX-3 engine? They sure sound better than what I am used to. I do use a Ventilator.

Here's Wakeman talking about his current rig, where he makes no mention of either Leslies or Vents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppfILkgZds

Another rig tour, also no Leslies in sight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQNWiCqFJaw

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:10 am
by Dniss
Bitflipper wrote:Do you agree that the organ tones he's getting in the video are better than what comes stock out of the CX-3 engine?
That's the first thing that crossed my mind.

But then I assumed it's me who is not proficient enough with CX-3.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:27 pm
by Bitflipper
Plus he does have a full-time synth tech whose job it is to build custom patches. Maybe if programming the Kronos was my full-time job, my CX-3 would probably sound better, too.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:37 pm
by GregC
Bitflipper wrote:Plus he does have a full-time synth tech whose job it is to build custom patches. Maybe if programming the Kronos was my full-time job, my CX-3 would probably sound better, too.
I had a 147 Leslie some decades ago. I am not quite hearing that 'sound ' amplified in the mix.

If you dig around, I think Rick has someone who does his programming. Get his name and see if he's on Facebook.

I have decent success messaging questions to musicians and receiving answers.

Its the direct approach

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:37 pm
by Bitflipper
Good idea! His live support tech is one Erik Jordan, who is also credited as engineer and/or producer on most of Wakeman's solo and collaborative records, including Journey to the Center of the Earth. That's all I know, and I have no idea how to contact him. I don't do Facebook.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:46 pm
by GregC
Bitflipper wrote:Good idea! His live support tech is one Erik Jordan, who is also credited as engineer and/or producer on most of Wakeman's solo and collaborative records, including Journey to the Center of the Earth. That's all I know, and I have no idea how to contact him. I don't do Facebook.
thats what google is for

I use FB minimally. I checked for Erik and don't find him on there.

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:01 pm
by keego
He also use a Hammond SK-73 as part of his rig. There is a couple of videos on the keyboard magazine channel where he goes through his entire rig for the ARW tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQNWiCqFJaw

An interesting watch.

Re: Kronos sighting: Yes at RnR Hall of Fame

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:42 pm
by Yuma
Bitflipper wrote:how do you link a YouTube video on this forum?

http://youtu.be/t1-NsnlPc54
See my signature for that.

Example:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/t1-NsnlPc54" frameborder="0"></iframe>

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:37 pm
by Derek Cook
Bitflipper wrote:Of course, not seeing a Leslie doesn't mean there wasn't one, either backstage or disguised.

Do you agree that the organ tones he's getting in the video are better than what comes stock out of the CX-3 engine? They sure sound better than what I am used to. I do use a Ventilator.

Here's Wakeman talking about his current rig, where he makes no mention of either Leslies or Vents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppfILkgZds

Another rig tour, also no Leslies in sight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQNWiCqFJaw
In all of the stuff I have seen/read on his rig, there is no mention of a hidden Leslie. So it's like ghosts I guess: just because you've never seen one is not evidence that there is one hiding... ;)

If I had to guess, as a later poster mentioned, he has a Hammond SK in hs rig. The one thing I did read about his rig is extensive use is made of MIDI, and just because he is seen playing a particular board it does not mean that that board is making the sound at the time.

So. who knows?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:18 am
by Bitflipper
Yeah, I saw that rig tour where he talked up the Hammond. However, in the Hall of Fame video he is clearly playing the organ parts on the Kronos.

Thanks for the YouTube info, Yuma.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:59 pm
by Derek Cook
That is my second point above, just because he is playing a board, doesn't mean it is making the sound at that point. It is where he wants to stand.