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ix studio · Post by **ix studio** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:55 pm

4 resonance osc

such a shame korg didnt continue this one in particular , in the z1 modulating the freq of 4 of the bands of the resonant osc via 4 staircase lfos makes for some of the most beautifull sounds i ever heard , similiar to the kawai K5000 . Nothing sounds like that resonance osc in the Z1 .

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:46 pm

hopefully it'll be on a future upgrade for the kronos.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:57 pm

I guess it won't.

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:30 pm

well, i guess it will.

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:26 pm

just read a review from ozy, saying brass is sub-par. which makes me miss moss even more.

vladimotor · Post by **vladimotor** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:07 pm

Put Z1 into Kronos and i would buy it.

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:28 am

me too.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:00 am

But it won't happen.

peter_schwartz · Post by **peter_schwartz** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:11 am

Curious about something... if various of you like MOSS so much, why not just either keep whatever MOSS synth you have already, or, go out and buy one used to use in conjunction with a Kronos (or whatever)?

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:15 pm

because the equipment that used moss are out of date, the triton has a floppy drive and you have to carry a external scsi drive to save big files or use 60 floppy disks, thats why, it would be much easier for korg to add all that moss is to the kronos, by the way I hear the brass on kronos isn't that great, so it would be nice to have a brass model from the moss engine.

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:08 pm

jemkeys25 wrote:because the equipment that used moss are out of date, the triton has a floppy drive and you have to carry a external scsi drive to save big files or use 60 floppy disks, thats why, it would be much easier for korg to add all that moss is to the kronos, by the way I hear the brass on kronos isn't that great, so it would be nice to have a brass model from the moss engine.

1. Don't base your opinions on what one guy said.
2. I never heard a convincing brass sound out of MOSS, and I have it on my Trinity. Especially ensemble. Interesting - yes. Convincing, not so much.

ozy · Post by **ozy** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:17 pm

StephenKay wrote:1. Don't base your opinions on what one guy said.

even if he is effing knowledgeable on the subject.

StephenKay wrote:2. I never heard a convincing brass sound out of MOSS, Interesting - yes. Convincing, not so much.

amen

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:10 pm

I think as far as sounds out of moss, you had to program your own sounds, at least thats what I did, and got great results in the context of a band mix, and you also got to layer sampled brass with modeled brass, something you can't do on kronos, I had the Z1, loved it, traded that in for the triton with the moss board, loved that, didn't care for the floppy drive, but it had a scsi connection, ok, same as k2000, but k2000 allowed for an internal scsi drive, big difference,had problems with the external, drive, didn't travel well. then comes the M3, uses thumb drives, great, sell triton, what M3 doesn't support the moss board, bummer.

I support korg, but sometimes I think the people that designed these instruments never used them live on a 5 and 6 night a week schedule, or they'd be designed differently.

Oh I forgot to mention, I owned the triton Le, that was my favorite triton, it was light weight, only 17 pounds, had a smart media card slot for saving programs, awsome, what you can't put a moss board in the triton le, are you kidding me?

all I can say is ,why? why?

StephenKay · Post by **StephenKay** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:25 pm

ozy wrote:
StephenKay wrote:1. Don't base your opinions on what one guy said.
even if he is effing knowledgeable on the subject.

The Internet is full of "experts" saying how much of an expert they are. Usually the real experts don't have to say it.

So, do you have an example piece of music you've created, containing some fantastic pop brass that we can listen to?

jemkeys25 · Post by **jemkeys25** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:35 pm

No examples, I'm a live player for over twenty years steady, and haven't had a triton for some years now, so I have no samples of those sounds from the moss, but i remember this trumpet sound i programmed that use to make my hair stand up, and that comes from the sound allowing for human feeling to be expressed through the instrument, which seems to be more obtainable through a pure synth rather than a sample based synth.

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