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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:02 pm
by danatkorg
LarsVonMeyer wrote:Well, I happen to own several studios in both Europe and California
Really? Which ones? Curiously, a search for "Lars Von Meyer" in Google nets no results at all.

Really, now, someone who owns several studios on different continents would be quite unlikely to bother himself with the silly games you've been playing here. It seems very much like you are trying to pass yourself off as someone that you are not...

- Dan

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:15 pm
by jazlover
Careful Dan..... Lars is a 5th degree Blackbelt, Mensa member, Triathlon- Supermodel ..........who does not need to impress people.

His mother thinks he is really great also. Who am I Von-Kidding ?



Very nice studio Ricky. It looks like a creative place. 8)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:22 pm
by danatkorg
ricky recordo wrote:I don't mind at all, billy... in fact when I have some guests in next week I think we may have some decent video equipment kicking around, so maybe we can get some better quality footage out.
I enjoyed the tour! It's an interesting facility. Is there a live room as well, or is your focus on pre-production?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:24 pm
by danatkorg
Also, I really liked the turtles. Now I'm thinking that my little home studio needs to beef up its turtle facilities! :-)

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:22 pm
by peter m. mahr
ski wrote:Yawn...

:roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:06 pm
by Arend Groot
LarsVonMeyer wrote:You Oasys fanboys make me feel sick with your worship of this amazingly average synth.
Oh yes, beware of the Oasys clan.......they infected me too, they are dangerous, go away from this place..the triffids arrived :twisted:

Arend

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:42 pm
by XVampireX
LarsVonMeyer: You know, it's what famous people like that makes things better, no seriously, don't you think that Jordan Rudess is one of the best if not the best keyboardists alive on this planet right now?

He likes the Oasys.

And size doesn't matter, it has been proven.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:47 pm
by Mike Conway
I think different perspectives make for interesting conversation - as long as people aren't agenda oriented (ie - strictly trolling). Even a hardware guy, like myself, acknowledges the importance of software for studio and large tasks.

I keep a still sealed copy of Sonar 6 around, just in case. (seriously.) An OASYS, computer or any piece of kit can go down, so it's good to have options, for unwavering deadlines.

There is that part of me that likes to sit at a particular keyboard and keep going, when I'm on a creative tangent. It's easier for me to create a new Song multi, than to re-cable my outboard FX units and mixers, for a new composition.

For example: I used to set up 48 patches/combis, in order to take on a score. Once I had that hardwired, I didn't want to touch it. It was easier to have more sounds set up and not have to use all of them - but they were there, if needed. It took me 3 - 7 days to audition sounds, appropriate to a particular project (pop, orchestral, synth based), and set them up.

Software is a similar process, particularly if you use the larger sample libraries. The largest orchestral libraries have many thousands (six figures, in some cases) of samples. A lot of that has to do with giving instruments many styles and articulations.

In the past, I composed quite a few songs/scores, using my E-MU Pro/Cussion and Yamaha SY99 as the base setup. I got an awful lot of music out of a combined 12 megs of ROM. It went even further, thanks to the wave modulation of the SY.

The OASYS is one of the few synths that offers wave modulation (as seen in STR-1, for example). While sample libraries generally trump ROM, in quantity - they don't always have expressiveness that wave modulation can provide. What seems like a paltry amount of ROM, can actually go pretty far.

So, while I would like to see more Korg EXs sample sets (they're really overdue), the OASYS 1.1 gigs (with 500 meg piano) of ROM is still the most around. I use a lot of strings, so I'm grateful for the extra 700 megs, from Karo.

While the OASYS may not cut it, as a stand alone, for everyone, it remains a synth workstation with so much power and potential, in a lot of areas. Why knock it or deny its worth as a serious musical tool?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:48 pm
by Count2Four123
Oh, my god ! The Revenge of the OASYS lovers !!

I better watch what i'm saying here in the future.

T.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:23 am
by ricky recordo
danatkorg wrote:I enjoyed the tour! It's an interesting facility. Is there a live room as well, or is your focus on pre-production?
Thanks Dan!

Pre-pro is what I'm best at, so yes, that's pretty much what I have the place set up for. I'm an idea man, a sounding board, a tweaker, a hardass critic, a sober voice of experience etc for young up-and-coming upstarts who wanna shake up the world with their music. Having said that, I have a fair bit of portable sound treatment on hand - gobos, bass traps, foamy room dividers etc. to accomodate live recording situations, and once the Hammond room comes online I think we'll be able to make it into a multi-purpose affair as well.

The main keyboard area is kinda unique in that things like the turtles home and the big old Roland piano are on casters, as is the vintage 1960s Hewlett Packard Testmobile rack, so they can be rolled back to free up a fair bit of floor space which can then easily accomodate a 4-5 piece live band. I may be able to get some video of the floor sometime next week when Tokyo Police Club move in to work out some material. We're booking them in Sept 4-8, but possibly (probably) longer. After that they're off to a real studio - I don't know where, but I believe it's somewhere in the US this time.

http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Artists/T/Tok ... 3-sun.html

Well there ya go. I love Bright Eyes.

The turtles... yeah, they're nice to have around. I take them out of their tank for a frolic every day, and they're a lot of fun to play with, but man oh man they're fast little critters. They do need a lot of daily maintenance and TLC if you want to keep them healthy and sociable, but man it's really worth it. When they hear me come in, they fly off their rock and swim to the front of the tank, and follow me around because they know that daddy's going to get some food and then it's playtime. :D

:EDITED: ... to add the newslink

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:39 am
by ricky recordo
Oh yeah, I think it was AnthonyB who figured my electricity tab must be big. Well, I received my first invoice yesterday for three months service - $133.78. Not too bad considering I keep almost everything powered up 24/7 (except for guitar amps).

I guess a lot of people assume that hardware synths, recorders, mixers etc are powerhogs... they're not really too bad though. It's the amps for the most part that gobble up the kilowatts, but even leaving my 600WRMS Yamaha monitors and my 160WRMS ESI monitors running fulltime, in addition to the full-spectrum lowlighting, the bill ain't too bad.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:16 am
by MartinHines
LarsVonMeyer wrote:I mean, honestly, how can you be claim to have any integrity and say the synthetic sounds of a PCM synthesizer
I may be incorrect, but I thought ALL sampling and digital audio recording was based on Pulse Code Modulation (PCM).
LarsVonMeyer wrote:with 628 MB rom is going to sound anywhere near as good as a 30GB rompler.
QUANTITY of samples does not necessarily equate with QUALITY of samples. While Colossus does have some really nice sounds, many of the patches are inconsistent across samples, and some of the patches are just not that playable.
LarsVonMeyer wrote: I have musicians telling me even Steinberg's Hypersonic sounds better than the Oasys.
Those musicians must have hearing damage. I have never been very impressed with Hypersonic 2.
LarsVonMeyer wrote:
we are about to acquire some Open Laps equipment (which appears to the next big thing)
You must be really out of touch if you think Open Labs products are the "next big thing". They have been around since January 2003 (4.5 years) and they haven't been able to convince many people that their products are worth the price premium compared to Windows XP rack computers.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:35 am
by Synergy
Count2Four123 wrote:Oh, my god ! The Revenge of the OASYS lovers !!

I better watch what i'm saying here in the future.

T.
You'll get use to it. Often feel like I'm in democrat &republican in one convention.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:39 am
by Synergy
EJ2 wrote: Now, can we get back to talking about the OASYS vs other music producing systems in a reasonable debate.

Cheers,
Eric
Amen to that my brother.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:00 am
by Count2Four123
Synergy wrote: You'll get use to it. Often feel like I'm in democrat &republican in one convention.
:D :? 8)