Jupiter-80 stand for Kronos?

[michelkeijzers]

Please forgive the midiot newb question but I have been curious as to what sort of advantage using the Behringer FBC1010 gives? I understand the expresion/volume pedals and even the up and down pedals to switch patches incramentally. But what uses would all the other pedals have? Also sorry to derail the thread a bit, but i keep seeing fellow korg players refer to this pedal board.

E.g. what I do with it:
- Leslie slow/fast (2 different switches but can be one if needed)
- Leslie stop
- Setting 3 switches for changing the purpose of the expression pedals (volume/ribbon control/effect) ... I don't like to put my arms from the keyboard if not really needed
- portamento on/off

I still wonder if it really fits under the K&M Spider Pro 18860 displayed several times in this topic. I mean it fits under it, but I don't think there is space left for a foot to step on all switches ... or I should lay it a bit under one leg and don't use the left 4 switches ... still 6 left

[kbrkr]

The top lid on the AX-90 2011 edition is not flimsy and I've had no trouble with mine so far after 30 or so gigs.

[helpinghand]

On the AX-90, would the second tier hold an ES-8 safely? I looked at the specs and their seems to be no issues with the weight. Just curious if anyone has performed with a large, heavy keyboard on both tiers.

[nowtime]

I purchased a Roland V-Stand a few years ago (I think the exact same stand was manufactured by Ultimate Support without the Roland logo). What a piece of crap. The mic boom was useless. No depth adjust on the 2nd tier, problems with folding it back up and other things. And it was really expensive with the 2nd tier and micboom, didn't even get a gig bag with it. But it sure looks fantastic!!

I hope the new Roland stand has no relation to this V-stand. I do see that the legs fold up in a similar way, where you have to get the little pegs into these little rubber holes. Crappy design on that V-stand. They've been discontinued.

[Synthesizedclapping]

I purchased a Roland V-Stand a few years ago (I think the exact same stand was manufactured by Ultimate Support without the Roland logo). What a piece of crap. The mic boom was useless. No depth adjust on the 2nd tier, problems with folding it back up and other things. And it was really expensive with the 2nd tier and micboom, didn't even get a gig bag with it. But it sure looks fantastic!!

I hope the new Roland stand has no relation to this V-stand. I do see that the legs fold up in a similar way, where you have to get the little pegs into these little rubber holes. Crappy design on that V-stand. They've been discontinued.

What's up wig Roland and v-ifying everything? V-stand, v-drums, v-synth, and god knows what else. Where does v fit into Roland?

[nowtime]

V for Victory.

[Hal2001]

[quote="EvilDragon"]Believe me, 15° angle is no big deal.
That looks awesome. How much wobble or bounce is there to the keyboard if I'm hitting the 88 keybed on the highest and lowest keys (e.g. not in the middle). Thx.

[phattbuzz]

The Roland PK-7A looks pretty sweet.

Why would you want *anything* that says Roland holding up your Kronos?

PK-7A isn't a stand - it's a pedal keyboard. Korg doesn't make one.

Looking at possible MIDI problems:

1. To hook up more than one keyboard to control drifferent channels on the Kronos, it looks like I'm going to have to get a MIDI Merger of some type. Probably best to get a 4-in/1-out for when I do get a pedal board.

2. Comparing the manuals for the PK-7A and Kronos. If I assign them both to the same MIDI channel, I can easily use the PK-7A's expression pedal as they are both CC#11 (can also use the CC#64 damper pedal on the PK-7A - but that doesn't look very usable). Then I could just split the range on the Kronos keyboard so that the pedal keyboard is lower (in combi mode). The PK-7A manual states that it uses note numbers 36-55. Not sure where the Kronos 61 keyboard starts.

The problem is that the left footswitch is hardwired to CC#18 and the right to CC#19. The Left footswitch would be excellent for Leslie Speed Control, however CC#18 is tied to the value slider on the Kronos, and CC#19 is one of the knobs.

[EvilDragon]

That looks awesome. How much wobble or bounce is there to the keyboard if I'm hitting the 88 keybed on the highest and lowest keys (e.g. not in the middle). Thx.

Thanks! The stand is REALLY stable. It's not like the keyboard is on concrete, but there is VERY little wobble when playing even fff on my PC3K8. Nothing that would detract you from performing to the best of your ability.

[Hal2001]

Thanks! The stand is REALLY stable. It's not like the keyboard is on concrete, but there is VERY little wobble when playing even fff on my PC3K8. Nothing that would detract you from performing to the best of your ability.

Your black on black, Spyder Pro w/black keyboards looks great. Do you think a silver stand with black keyboards would look as good? Probably not? Did you consider it or did you always have the SP? I was going to get the Ultimate Support X90 but I found my toes stubbing it in the store and saw no comfortable room for pedals even standing up, let alone sitting down, and I would use it both ways. The K&M looks to be a very good solution plus it's $100 less than the Ultimate and it's lighter too. Win/Win.

[EvilDragon]

Nah, I've never ever considered a silver Spider Pro. Not the same thing for me - black is always IN.

But, if you had a Triton, a Virus TI Polar, a white Waldorf Blofeld keyboard, perhaps a silver Spider Pro would fit better in such combo



SP...?

[JimH]

I recently bought a black Spider Pro stand from B&H and I like it. But the first thing I noticed, coming from a pretty solid QuickLok X-type stand, is that it's just not going to be as stable as an X stand, or probably a Z stand. I put a 50-lb piano on the bottom tier and it does wobble a little when you play hard. But I assume that's the nature of column stands and it's fairly stable considering that. It doesn't bother me when I'm not thinking about it. If you're a rock piano banger and need to have absolutely solid stability, you may want to look elsewhere. The only other thing is the mike boom connection on the top of the column; the threads are plastic. I'm not sure how long that will last. Also, what occurred to me after I got it was that when you have it set up at home, if you're going to put it right against a wall there's no room for the other counterbalance side of the mic boom. I was thinking of trying a gooseneck instead but I'm doubtful that would stay in position.
The good things about it: I like the look much better than the apex, I like the room for pedals, and it's cheaper and a lot lighter than the apex.

[EnjoyRC]

The only other thing is the mike boom connection on the top of the column; the threads are plastic. I'm not sure how long that will last.

Yeah.. the threads get messed up pretty easily. Fortunately, it can be easily replaced with a metal mic stand adapter. From the small thread to normal mic stand size threads.

[Kevin Nolan]

Quik Lok is who I use. I have a 220 lb CS80 sitting on one of their stands and it's as solid as houses.

Personally I could not care how they look - on stage or in the studio - once they do the job.

For users of vintage synths and new keyboards like me, those Ultimate stands shown earlier in the thread, no matter how well they look, are useless. They cannot cater for the large polysynths of the '70s and 80's as well as hold modern workstations.

Overall, I find Quik Lok to be far superior to the rest, while Ultimate stands are about as useful as a chocolate teapot. They are unstable unless holding the lightest keyboard (I'm using one to hold an SY99 and JD800 - and believe me - it is never more than a gentle push away from falling over) while their sloped backs mean that they use up loads of space for nothing in the studio. The most modern Ultimate stands are even more of a disgrace - the point where the arms meet the spine are rounded and cannot take a keyboard properly, making them even more unstable.

I would strongly recommend NOT using Ultimate stands for a Kronos 73 or 88.

Finally, that Roland stand looks good to me for a single keyboard / stage piano, and unlike Stephen Kay, I have absolutely no issue with the label on it - it's irrelevant (my OASYS is sitting nicely on a Yamaha stand) and unless you buy a Korg stand, there'll be some other name on it.

Kevin

[StephenKay]

Finally, that Roland stand looks good to me for a single keyboard / stage piano, and unlike Stephen Kay, I have absolutely no issue with the label on it

That was more of a joke.

What isn't a joke, is the obscene price of it.