Apple Taking On The OASYS

ricky recordo · Post by **ricky recordo** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:48 am

billysynth1 wrote:Actually Ski,
Ricky is the proud owner of an Oasys offspring - a little baby M3. Ricky posted a link to YouTube of his studio full of keyboards etc and right at the end of the clip we see his beloved M3.

Ricky hope you dont mind me posting the link you had - it was a nice little tour, i realise you had a bad quality video though

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D5rjkl6p_8k

billy

I don't mind at all, billy... in fact when I have some guests in next week I think we may have some decent video equipment kicking around, so maybe we can get some better quality footage out.

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:01 am

Ricky, after seeing that quirky video tour of your place, I find myself impressed with your setup. I can see why you would be on this forum, because you are a true synth nut! (Meant in a good way.)

What is interesting, is that you have a lot of the OASYS functionality, already - via your Wave Station, Korg Legacy, M3, Trinity, etc. Of course, supplementing with the Yamaha Motif XS and the other synths can only help.

As for STR-1, it is one of the OASYS many parts. Most of the patches are going for string emulation, but STR-1 has the makings of some good synth guts! I give it points for sample (wave) modulation. Most people might not use it like this, but I took a snippet of my voice and played an original pitch note, followed by a note, 2 octaves down.

STR-1 Modulating voice

Obviously, the advantage to the OASYS is the potential interaction between engines and number of FX, etc. in one board. But, I don't find your setup lacking, by any stretch. I could see myself playing in there, for a few weeks.

If your studio burned down, some insurance money and an OASYS purchase could be a quick fix - it might not replace all of your gorgeous gear, but it would be great, for you or someone who didn't have all of that stuff. (I'm not suggesting playing with matches or even taunting the ouiji board! )

I agree that the processor would be considered behind.....if it was competing as a computer. As a synth keyboard, I don't see Motifs or Fantoms catching up with the ability to load 700 megs of samples in 30 seconds, anytime soon.

ricky recordo · Post by **ricky recordo** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:22 am

Mike Conway wrote:What is interesting, is that you have a lot of the OASYS functionality, already - via your Wave Station, Korg Legacy, M3, Trinity, etc. Of course, supplementing with the Yamaha Motif XS and the other synths can only help.

Thanks for your kind post, Mike.

What I really want to do next is bring in the dinosaurs - the Hammond M3 and Leslie... plus I got a message today (which I still must respond to) regarding the Hammond C3 I mention in the clip. I think it's mine.

Price: "Bring a pickup truck and get it outta my shop"... a machine shop BTW.

I've got vintage string machines, analog tape decks, and other restored museumpieces that I'm itching to set up here as well.

Yeah, you're right... I'm a nut

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:08 am

ski wrote:Synergy,
I have no idea what you're talking about, but on this topic I agree with you 100%.

Ski I saw a ouija board in his studio from the youtube link. It can unleash some serious evil entities (again no pun intended) and I know it from my personal experiences (no comment).

I didn't mean to hijack the thread but this is a serious matter. Forget about the shortfalls on the Oasys, I'm willing to take your job if our souls can be saved from the pit of hell.

ski · Post by **ski** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:19 am

Syn,

Thanks for the explanation. See, I didn't watch the whole video. When I got to the part where he interrupted those two turtles copulating I stopped. Tortoise interruptus is something I just can't bear to watch...

Synergy · Post by **Synergy** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:41 am

Hi Ricky

I concur that the Canadian evil spirits are by far less eviler than the neighboring ones. I'm worry that your kids might get involved out of curiousity. I can't guarantee the authenticity of the clips but if it's known to cause something paranormal, I wouldn't keep it in my home.

Here are few clips I found, mostly made by the teenagers. You'd be the judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFtItVt1dA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erD64ZACE18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJn9AAIO0cs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9jgamU ... ed&search=

ski · Post by **ski** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:10 am

Limericky,

Save it. The disparaging things you write about the Oasys may indeed be your opinions; but when you voice them for 2.5 years whist having no association with the instrument other than as a browser in a music store, that makes you a troll in the Oasys forum. IMO the value, if not the motives of voicing your "opinions" here is questionable at best.

So here's to some former good times and limerick exchanges

and here's to the future...

LarsVonMeyer · Post by **LarsVonMeyer** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:09 am

You Oasys fanboys make me feel sick with your worship of this amazingly average synth.

I mean, honestly, how can you be claim to have any integrity and say the synthetic sounds of a PCM synthesizer, with 628 MB rom is going to sound anywhere near as good as a 30GB rompler. I have musicians telling me even Steinberg's Hypersonic sounds better than the Oasys.

And to the guy that said I am only saying this because I can't afford a real Oasys. Well, I happen to own several studios in both Europe and California, and all of them have Sony C800G mics - each one cost way more than a single Oasys - so you do the math.

I don't have any Oasys keyboards for a good reason; my clients never ask for one. If they need anything, we have all the essential acoustic instruments plus Colossus/ Muse Receptors/Komplete.

We also have several Motifs, some older Kurzweils, and Tritons - but we are finding they are wasting space most of the time, it seems the overall direction of the industry really is moving towards softsynths now - we are about to acquire some Open Laps equipment (which appears to the next big thing) very soon to replace most of the older workstations

Thats all I have got to say, I'm out of here.

ski · Post by **ski** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:30 am

Yawn...

Atmakrida · Post by **Atmakrida** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:43 am

Hmmm...wonder why Lars has such a genuine interest in this "average" synth since he spends his time with all the Oasys-Lovers on this forum...
And no matter how expensive that mic is it can never do 0.1% of what the Oasys can....but come on guys...Let´s combine both the Oasys and Logic 8...although it will be "like butter on fat"

Post by **Sharp** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:52 pm

Hi LarsVonMeyer

I mean, honestly, how can you be claim to have any integrity and say the synthetic sounds of a PCM synthesizer, with 628 MB rom is going to sound anywhere near as good as a 30GB rompler.

How does the size of the library give you any indication though as to the quality.

The only reason why libraries are so big now days is because nobody bothers to loop samples any more. I just bought myself a 140GB orchestral package, and NONE of the samples are looped.

So now I can't even hold down a freaking chord without notes from running out. I have to loop them myself, but due to copyright protection, they make this very difficult for me.

So...your 30GB could very easily be nothing more than 500MB of looped samples for all we know.

You Oasys fanboys make me feel sick with your worship of this amazingly average synth.

Which is exactly the kind of response I would expect to hear from someone who doesn't even understand the depth of the OASYS. There's no way on earth a person who doesn't even own one could convince me that they know what this instrument is able to do.

Even the majority of people who do own an OASYS have yet to learn how to program the likes of STR-1, or to even explore it's depths.

Not to mention Karma v2.

Regards.
Sharp.

Vadim · Post by **Vadim** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:05 pm

LarsVonMeyer wrote:You Oasys fanboys make me feel sick with your worship of this amazingly average synth.

I mean, honestly, how can you be claim to have any integrity and say the synthetic sounds of a PCM synthesizer, with 628 MB rom is going to sound anywhere near as good as a 30GB rompler. I have musicians telling me even Steinberg's Hypersonic sounds better than the Oasys.

And to the guy that said I am only saying this because I can't afford a real Oasys. Well, I happen to own several studios in both Europe and California, and all of them have Sony C800G mics - each one cost way more than a single Oasys - so you do the math.

I don't have any Oasys keyboards for a good reason; my clients never ask for one. If they need anything, we have all the essential acoustic instruments plus Colossus/ Muse Receptors/Komplete.

We also have several Motifs, some older Kurzweils, and Tritons - but we are finding they are wasting space most of the time, it seems the overall direction of the industry really is moving towards softsynths now - we are about to acquire some Open Laps equipment (which appears to the next big thing) very soon to replace most of the older workstations

Thats all I have got to say, I'm out of here.

Do you work for software compnies like most Workstations bashers here...

????

In my area here, the people use soft synth are kids and beginers who download them.
serious musicians/producers around here use actual Workstations...

Wasting space?? huh?? I think you're wasting space on this forum!!!

Acoustic instrumets?? well if you want that acoustic sound....

The people I work with prefer KORG Workstation sound..
(I think mostly to very experianced programmers)

Most softie companies, are jeleous because they can't have such experianced sound designers, except Spectrasonics, and FEW other softie companies...
that's why they go around forums bashing Workstations and so on...

Vadim · Post by **Vadim** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:07 pm

LarsVonMeyer wrote:
I'm out of here.

That's the only right thing you've done so far.....
Thanks, i hope you don't come back...

Count2Four123 · Post by **Count2Four123** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:34 pm

Guys, do we need this kind of member-bashing that is demonstrated in this specific thread for some time now ?

I suggest: let everyone have his personal opinion and respect each other !

This forum was - for a long time - such a peaceful place where everyone had an open ear for the needs and troubles of the other members. It would be nice if we could switch back to normal.

Thanx

T.
- a LOGIC and OASYS user -

EJ2 · Post by **EJ2** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:44 pm

LarsVonMeyer wrote:.....Thats all I have got to say, I'm out of here.

Right! That's a great idea.

And, Synergy, my friend. Korg Forums or Karma Lab Forums are music forums. I hope you are joking, because to proselytize for any religious reason is not appropriate here. Some of us are not religious at all and we find this nonsense offensive. Personally, I think ouija board claims (negative or pseudo positive) are a crock. Many people have used them for palour games or to help kids with spelling. But they are nothing more than a board game/toy. Some seem to claim contact with the spirits etc. It's bunk to me. I'm a retired principal and as Ricky pointed out, not one student or his/her family was injured or came under evil spells .... period! This is the 21st century, man. Get real.

Now, can we get back to talking about the OASYS vs other music producing systems in a reasonable debate.

Cheers,
Eric