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Hi Daz,

If your librarian works ok with Windows then I would love to try it out as well. Thanks. :)

Is your librarian similar to the OASYS Companion by Stuart Pryer.
I bought that a while back and then Korg changed a lot of the file format structure in the last couple of OS updates I seem to recall. Although the main functions do work in the Oasys Companion as far as I remember, I did have some serious issues with the OASYS freezing from time to time and I would have to reboot OASYS and my PC. When I spoke with Stuart about this he said he was unable to update OASYS Companion as Korg would not release the relevent documentation that he needed. I am not sure if anything has changed since then or if other users of Stuart's librarian are getting better results. But I basically stopped using it due to its instability at the time. I might have another look again though just to remind myself :)

Also, if the documentation you and Dan have mentioned in this thread is related to the pcg file structure which changed with the OASYS last OS revisions, would it be possible to get a copy so I can send this on to Stuart in the hope that he might be able to update OASYS Companion. Now that Korg have stopped further releases OASYS OS, I would imagine any other 3rd party utilities would be simpler to support now rather than having to revise them every time there was an OASYS OS update.

Hope this was not too off topic, and thanks for any infos on this.

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Daz,

were can I download you librarian...link from before doesn't work

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Daz,

Me too pretty please.

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Daz, sorry for the trouble, mate. I didn't want to start this... :oops: :D.
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Daz wrote:I didn't forget you :-) I will PM you a link to the last Mac version. It's the better version of the two and the one I will support for friends because I use it myself.
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LOL. Daz. Ditto that for me too, please.
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Post by Daz »

Sorry guys I was mistaken in letting this out. As I said previously I can't continue to produce reliable software based on Korg's proprietary formats. It isn't possible for me to maintain things like the Oasys librarian, M3 librarian and the other pieces of software I wrote to add value to Korg's products. I don't want to produce software that is unreliable that I wouldn't feel comfortable using with my own precious data.

I know someone will be keen to tell me I am wrong, but this is my decision about how to use MY time and how I choose to maintain MY personal quality standards.
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Daz wrote:I know someone will be keen to tell me I am wrong
I know more about a lot of Korg products and their usage than some (many?) of Korg's staff, but that somehow counts for nothing. I've spent more time supporting many of their products than many of their support staff. In some cases I have provided the ONLY support at all for some aspects of their products. For years ! Just how much do I need to know and how much time and money do I need to spend to command some courtesy ?

How much knowledge do you think it takes to develop these kinds of apps and 30+ other pieces of software I've written for Korg products.

:-(

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Daz -

It sounds like you're having a bad day at the office!! Don't be to hard on Korg (or yourself) - I know corporations can be incredibly frustrating to deal with and we have all has such frustrating experiences; but I genuinely believe that all these music companies, however seemingly they aggravate us (and boy did I have a shot at them around when OASYS was cancelled); are well intentioned in that they exist for a fairly positive reason in producing innovative musical instruments which affect humanity in a positive way.

For the record, you (and Sharp) have been astounding ambassadors for Korg and for the community you created. I genuinely mean that and I'm incredibly grateful to you both. You've brought together a bunch of like-minded individuals across the planet and connected us in ways to exploit our OASYS and all the other Korg instruments in ways we otherwise never would.

So please do not be too hard on Korg - or yourself- there is deep gratitude from every one here no doubt; and I've also no doubt that however seeming careless "Korg Inc" might appear that many individuals in that company are equally grateful to you and Sharp and inspired by this forum.

So please don't be too sad or downbeat - (referring to the un-smiley faces) - you've a lot to be incredibly proud of and there's a lot of real and tangible possitive affect you've instigated. This forum and your efforts (bugs and all) are a success!! It worked - your vision worked and continues to work fabulously!!

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Kevin Nolan wrote:For the record, you (and Sharp) have been astounding ambassadors for Korg and for the community you created. I genuinely mean that and I'm incredibly grateful to you both. You've brought together a bunch of like-minded individuals across the planet and connected us in ways to exploit our OASYS and all the other Korg instruments in ways we otherwise never would.
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Post by t_tangent »

Yup, thanks Daz for all your support, and I totally understand your position. In the meantime I still use the Randomizer on occasion and often that and a few tweaks can create some very interesting sounds :)
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Post by Daz »

Thanks guys ... a lot (!)

I am not being hard on anyone, it is just a practical reality. It is no longer possible to do what I had wanted to do for people (FOR FREE!)

It's not like the old days of the Triton sadly when it was easy to make a contribution.
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Just how much do I need to know and how much time and money do I need to spend to command some courtesy ?
If I hadn't just quit my job of 15 years - for exactly the same reason - I would hire you to design and build the midi controller of my dreams.

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I am sorry to hear that S. and you very much have my sympathy believe me :-( I know you did some really solid work for those folks and stuck with it.

It sounds a bit daft after that hearing news, but I do hope you're keeping well !

Daz.
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For the record the rather more advanced M3 librarian I created (Mac and Windows, again for free) has fallen to the same fate for the same reasons. So I am not picking on Oasys users here ! I am sorry not to be able to share my efforts with others and will no longer be pursuing these projects in any form.

I am truly disappointed that my efforts are not something I could share with people and that clearly such efforts are not going to be feasible as they once were. I don't actually own an M3 and yet still tried to put something into that community because that is what I believe(d) the spirit of the Internet was. I am sure some might find my attitude offensive and I will acknowledge that now and save those people the effort of having to share that opinion here. Thanks.

I have written quite a number of pieces of software, most often multiplatform and of commercial quality. I take great pride in those efforts and hope those efforts helped others and their music making efforts. I will miss making such contributions and 'paying forward', but it simply isn't possible for me to do it in a way that would be as effective and of the quality that I demand from my own work.

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