Sanjay,
This forum is an unofficial Korg forum, it is not setup by Korg, only it's users. If people from Korg are regular contributors on the M3 forums, it shows they have a bigger market there.
From what i know the biggest market for the Pa line is Turkey.
How do we contact Korg telling them what we would like in the next OS rather than them making something which users do not need or want?
PA OS 2.0!
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Hi mrkorg,
So that's what i am trying to find out.
For what i read Rob S. has been approched to look at the os2.
Nedim has been approched to work for korg and previously had many issues in here with mr trammanoni (korg).
PS:
I personaly think that the market for the korg pax series is bigger than the korg m market correct me if i am wrong.
The reason the m3 forum is heared is because some inside korgies have a m3 and not pa.
I personaly think that Rob is the person who has to be the buffer between us and korg but i don't know what you guys think ?
Gr,
Sanjai
So that's what i am trying to find out.
For what i read Rob S. has been approched to look at the os2.
Nedim has been approched to work for korg and previously had many issues in here with mr trammanoni (korg).
PS:
I personaly think that the market for the korg pax series is bigger than the korg m market correct me if i am wrong.
The reason the m3 forum is heared is because some inside korgies have a m3 and not pa.
I personaly think that Rob is the person who has to be the buffer between us and korg but i don't know what you guys think ?
Gr,
Sanjai
Good points. I also want to know if Rob mentioned some things about this forum and all the complaints about certain malfunctions/bugs.
Does Korg know about this site or not?
I am sure M3 people know, but PA people might not be interested. Keeps strange developing features in a new OS nobody really cares about instead of reparing the damage we all are waiting for ...
Does Korg know about this site or not?
I am sure M3 people know, but PA people might not be interested. Keeps strange developing features in a new OS nobody really cares about instead of reparing the damage we all are waiting for ...
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Rob Sherratt
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You must draw your own conclusions about how I must conduct myself in public. Sometimes I go too far in what I say ...Rob,
Please......
What is korg after one who says the thruth or one who says what they wanted to here.
So OS 2 is a welcome but there are other things more wanted by us.
On the Korgpa website the is a button linked to this site so I think there tracking us.
What I still not understand is that you had the oppertunaty to say somethingbut you didn't ?
Let's leaf that behind and focus us that korg pay some more attention to us !!!
So I still find you and/or nedim the best guys to communicate with Korg in behave of us, if you're willing to do it ?
Gr,
Sanjai
Please......
What is korg after one who says the thruth or one who says what they wanted to here.
So OS 2 is a welcome but there are other things more wanted by us.
On the Korgpa website the is a button linked to this site so I think there tracking us.
What I still not understand is that you had the oppertunaty to say somethingbut you didn't ?
Let's leaf that behind and focus us that korg pay some more attention to us !!!
So I still find you and/or nedim the best guys to communicate with Korg in behave of us, if you're willing to do it ?
Gr,
Sanjai
Hi Rob,
Glad you to hear your honest opinion on what you think of the new OS2. I understand you're position completely and stand on the beta test and your opinion.
I bought this keyboard with the version it came with and I will be completely satisfied if everything in the original OS is working. I appreciate Korg for rewarding their users/clients/customers by offering them a new OS2. Having said that I don't think they can buy me with a new OS2 just to shut me up on what they sold me in the first place that was suppose to be working.
So the question I have, are the bugs taken care of in OS2?
Can I load a custom set and not have to worry about formatting keyboard just so it can work the way its suppose to work. Please let me know if the major issues and bugs have been taken care of. If those issues have been taken care of and everything working then I praise KORG for their effort in bringing us this new OS but if they still have issues and bugs with it and still remains then I will most likely be speaking against it as I have said this before. I hope no one thinks of me as some arrogant user but I would like to have a keyboard that works for which I have paid good money.
Hope to hear your thoughts on some of the issues on loading custom sets.
Thanks in advance.
A.K.
Glad you to hear your honest opinion on what you think of the new OS2. I understand you're position completely and stand on the beta test and your opinion.
I bought this keyboard with the version it came with and I will be completely satisfied if everything in the original OS is working. I appreciate Korg for rewarding their users/clients/customers by offering them a new OS2. Having said that I don't think they can buy me with a new OS2 just to shut me up on what they sold me in the first place that was suppose to be working.
So the question I have, are the bugs taken care of in OS2?
Can I load a custom set and not have to worry about formatting keyboard just so it can work the way its suppose to work. Please let me know if the major issues and bugs have been taken care of. If those issues have been taken care of and everything working then I praise KORG for their effort in bringing us this new OS but if they still have issues and bugs with it and still remains then I will most likely be speaking against it as I have said this before. I hope no one thinks of me as some arrogant user but I would like to have a keyboard that works for which I have paid good money.
Hope to hear your thoughts on some of the issues on loading custom sets.
Thanks in advance.
A.K.
I don't own a PA2x anymore so I can tell you what I reckon..
as far as I know NO-ONE asked for "nuanced sounds"
NO-ONE asked for Score Reading
NO-ONE asked for a new search function
What people did ask for was
Allow full interchange of user styles using user sounds
Single style methodology- ie get rid of "sets" and allow single style import/export
Better/modified Insert Effects path
Better handling of simple text files
Better Audio Routing
Ability to record MP3 files along with vocals/keyboard playing
PC editor to make editing styles/sounds and setup of PA easier/quicker
Faster sample load/read times
Better MIDI sysex implementation
Midi Sysex documentation
More Styles (although to be fair these might come in December)
If I missed some then sorry, it was the onyl ones I could remember..(Some of these were mine way back when PA1xPro was in op sys 1.5) Still have not even been looked at by Korg.
So, I guess Korg might look at all the requests and posts, but they do not seem to READ them.
They have their own agenda for updates and it has not a lot to do with users, but a LOT to do with matching and trying to surpass their competitors. Call me cynical, but after 6 years with the PA's, time to call it a day.
Now the M3, with Stephen Kay behind it, is superb. See Korg, you CAN get it right, don't know why you cannot seem to do the same for the arranger division.
Dennis
as far as I know NO-ONE asked for "nuanced sounds"
NO-ONE asked for Score Reading
NO-ONE asked for a new search function
What people did ask for was
Allow full interchange of user styles using user sounds
Single style methodology- ie get rid of "sets" and allow single style import/export
Better/modified Insert Effects path
Better handling of simple text files
Better Audio Routing
Ability to record MP3 files along with vocals/keyboard playing
PC editor to make editing styles/sounds and setup of PA easier/quicker
Faster sample load/read times
Better MIDI sysex implementation
Midi Sysex documentation
More Styles (although to be fair these might come in December)
If I missed some then sorry, it was the onyl ones I could remember..(Some of these were mine way back when PA1xPro was in op sys 1.5) Still have not even been looked at by Korg.
So, I guess Korg might look at all the requests and posts, but they do not seem to READ them.
They have their own agenda for updates and it has not a lot to do with users, but a LOT to do with matching and trying to surpass their competitors. Call me cynical, but after 6 years with the PA's, time to call it a day.
Now the M3, with Stephen Kay behind it, is superb. See Korg, you CAN get it right, don't know why you cannot seem to do the same for the arranger division.
Dennis
Some of us have wished for something similar to the Super Articulation voices in the Tyros 2/3 and that is just what the DNC voices seem to be. In my opinion it is the only area where the Tyros line has an edge in relation to the Pa800/Pa2X. I think it is a great move by Korg.miden wrote:as far as I know NO-ONE asked for "nuanced sounds"
Dennis, please tell us more about these styles!miden wrote:More Styles (although to be fair these might come in December)
Kind regards,
Tommy
Korg Pa600, Roland BK-7m
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Rob Sherratt
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Just wanna make it clear that in June I was privileged to see advanced versions of some of the new functionality that is going into OS2. It was released to me as some patches added to a keyboard owned by Korg and which has now been returned, and that is what I wrote about now I am released from NDA. My own Pa2x does not have any OS2 code on it.
I have not been subsequently sent any "beta test" version of the final OS2 release. I am sure Korg are working hard on the final OS2 release, like incorporating bux fixes etc, but I do not know anything about these.
Best regards,
Rob
I have not been subsequently sent any "beta test" version of the final OS2 release. I am sure Korg are working hard on the final OS2 release, like incorporating bux fixes etc, but I do not know anything about these.
Best regards,
Rob
Folks:
Korg does watch and get involved in these forums, not Japan (Korg Inc.) or Italy (Korg Italy), but everything here is seen/heard.
The level of involvement directly is related to other people involved in selling/supporting and sometimes developing Korg products (like myself, Stephen Kay, Dan Phillips etc.).
Korg Inc. is responsible for the upgrade development and plans for the M3 - S. Kay was obviously involved in the KARMA aspect, but not in all the other elements. Korg Inc Engineering in coordination with input/feedback from the various Distributors, long-time dialogs on these and other forums, and more created the feature set.
The same thing does happen for Pa products, and dialog and discussions here are a factor. There are elements of what you all discuss that can be done, some that can't be done, and perhaps the priorities don't match each of your wishes. We'll keep looking at that and do our best to "intersect" with your needs, everything we do is based on two principles:
Creating sales
Satisfying users
We have to do that within our resources and in balance with all of our product planning. And we try to do our best. But recognize that there are a LOT of PA users around the world, and the feedback that is given to each Dealer, Distributor and Korg Italy comes from all these people, not just this forum. So perhaps there are other users who also have strong needs, but they don't "live" here?
I'm not as close to the Pa product development as I am for other parts of the line, but I do work the group, and intend on getting more involved. So I cannot really answer details/strategies etc.
But please understand that you are read, considered, and are important to us.
OK?
Regards,
Jerry
Korg does watch and get involved in these forums, not Japan (Korg Inc.) or Italy (Korg Italy), but everything here is seen/heard.
The level of involvement directly is related to other people involved in selling/supporting and sometimes developing Korg products (like myself, Stephen Kay, Dan Phillips etc.).
Korg Inc. is responsible for the upgrade development and plans for the M3 - S. Kay was obviously involved in the KARMA aspect, but not in all the other elements. Korg Inc Engineering in coordination with input/feedback from the various Distributors, long-time dialogs on these and other forums, and more created the feature set.
The same thing does happen for Pa products, and dialog and discussions here are a factor. There are elements of what you all discuss that can be done, some that can't be done, and perhaps the priorities don't match each of your wishes. We'll keep looking at that and do our best to "intersect" with your needs, everything we do is based on two principles:
Creating sales
Satisfying users
We have to do that within our resources and in balance with all of our product planning. And we try to do our best. But recognize that there are a LOT of PA users around the world, and the feedback that is given to each Dealer, Distributor and Korg Italy comes from all these people, not just this forum. So perhaps there are other users who also have strong needs, but they don't "live" here?
I'm not as close to the Pa product development as I am for other parts of the line, but I do work the group, and intend on getting more involved. So I cannot really answer details/strategies etc.
But please understand that you are read, considered, and are important to us.
OK?
Regards,
Jerry
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Thank you Jerry, we all know that you guys WATCH over us but there wasnt
big response to US...thanks again...Paolo used to pop up once in a while...
...say hi to Malcolm.
Nedim
big response to US...thanks again...Paolo used to pop up once in a while...
...say hi to Malcolm.
Nedim
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jerrythek wrote:Folks:
Korg does watch and get involved in these forums, not Japan (Korg Inc.) or Italy (Korg Italy), but everything here is seen/heard.
The level of involvement directly is related to other people involved in selling/supporting and sometimes developing Korg products (like myself, Stephen Kay, Dan Phillips etc.).
Korg Inc. is responsible for the upgrade development and plans for the M3 - S. Kay was obviously involved in the KARMA aspect, but not in all the other elements. Korg Inc Engineering in coordination with input/feedback from the various Distributors, long-time dialogs on these and other forums, and more created the feature set.
The same thing does happen for Pa products, and dialog and discussions here are a factor. There are elements of what you all discuss that can be done, some that can't be done, and perhaps the priorities don't match each of your wishes. We'll keep looking at that and do our best to "intersect" with your needs, everything we do is based on two principles:
Creating sales
Satisfying users
We have to do that within our resources and in balance with all of our product planning. And we try to do our best. But recognize that there are a LOT of PA users around the world, and the feedback that is given to each Dealer, Distributor and Korg Italy comes from all these people, not just this forum. So perhaps there are other users who also have strong needs, but they don't "live" here?
I'm not as close to the Pa product development as I am for other parts of the line, but I do work the group, and intend on getting more involved. So I cannot really answer details/strategies etc.
But please understand that you are read, considered, and are important to us.
OK?
Regards,
Jerry
Thank you for making us users aware that someone actually is listening to our concerns about some major issues with the product. We look forward to having some of the bug fixes before anything else. It would be rather premature to bring out an OS2 with bug issues from previous version. I hope that some of the major concerns get addressed. Again thank you for making us feel confident about product we invest in.
Regards,
A.K.
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Hello Jerry,
Just to say thank you for your reply on this forum. It had been a very long time since there has been any input from Korg on the Pa2x/Pa800 part of the forum. It has felt for a long time like all the suggestions and problems people had been writing about were being ignored.
I like the fact that Stephen Kay maintains a register on www.karma-labs.com of people owning keyboards with Karma products in them, such as the M3.
To establish the number of Korg Pa keyboard users represented here, I will start a register of owners. It may be true what you say that this forum is not representative of most of Korg's Pa customers, but at least if we have a register then you will know who is who.
Best regards,
rob
Just to say thank you for your reply on this forum. It had been a very long time since there has been any input from Korg on the Pa2x/Pa800 part of the forum. It has felt for a long time like all the suggestions and problems people had been writing about were being ignored.
I like the fact that Stephen Kay maintains a register on www.karma-labs.com of people owning keyboards with Karma products in them, such as the M3.
To establish the number of Korg Pa keyboard users represented here, I will start a register of owners. It may be true what you say that this forum is not representative of most of Korg's Pa customers, but at least if we have a register then you will know who is who.
Best regards,
rob
Rob and all,Rob Sherratt wrote: To establish the number of Korg Pa keyboard users represented here, I will start a register of owners. It may be true what you say that this forum is not representative of most of Korg's Pa customers, but at least if we have a register then you will know who is who.
Best regards,
rob
Firstly apologies for my absence for a while, This is an extremely busy time in work for me.
The idea of a register of PA owners is great. Put me down for a PA50
