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Very nice on the M3, thank you

Since you played the "G" it would have been very very helpful if you explained in better detail what made it so impressive

For example, the SRX boards have been around for some years- simply playing the SRX sounds on the " G " isn't very compelling

Enthusiasm is a wonderful thing. If you could tell your story, in terms of new sounds , that would be very useful

Specifically, did you notice any new samples specific to the G ? Don't include the ARX samples. Or the SRX

Thanks

Sina172 wrote:You wanna know something? I was SOLD on the OASYS based on a CHEESY LOW quality SEVERELY COMPRESSED MP3 Demo!

That's OK. I bought the M3 without trying it. But I knew exactly what I expect from a keyboard, I knew my needs and I knew that M3 has those features.
My question actually was, how did you decide to buy the M3 while you already have an Oasys? It was known that the sounds are comes from Oasys and that they will not sound the same in every aspect.

Sina172 wrote: but the Fantom-G not ONLY sounds AMAZING, but the feature set is unreal and they are FAR easier to get to because of that huge screen and USB mouse. It's a HUGE upgrade from the Fantom-X line.

You have the right to have your opinion. No problem. The bigger screen and mouse support means nothing to me when I'm on stage. And by connectign the M3 to my Imac I have the editor on a 24" screen. That's even better than the fantom G.

Sina172 wrote: The PHA II hammer action on the G8 is actually BETTER than the 88-note OASYS (Yamaha's Motif XS8 Action also feels better than the OASYS, but you know what? The keys are REALLY small in comparison!).

Don't forget how long the Oasys is on the market, compared to the motif xs and the "fantom" fantom G.

Sina172 wrote: Oh and by the way, the CHEAP $100 soundcards don't even sound very good.

I talked about sequencers for 100 bucks. Not soundcards. But for 200 $ you will get something acceptable for sure. Not to mention that you can use digital inputs and get the sounds out of your keyboard without quality loss.

Sina172 wrote: NOTHING can replace the convenience of having a Sequencer inside a keyboard because when inspiration strikes, I wanna GO! NOT configure this and that all the time. And the Fantom-G will give me what the MV-8800 lacks: Multitimbral support, and multitrack MIDI recording (although you have to extract them if your recording a performance containing 8 different timbres.

There is a sequencer inside the M3 and it does exactly what you want: it is multitimbral (like any other seq on the planet) and it does multitrack midi recording. Not sure how you come to the mv8800.
And you will have to configure this and that all the time also on the fantom g, or do you believe that it reads the owners mind and wishes?

I don't have the slightest problem if somebody likes the fantom g more as long as there are some halfway serious arguments. You think it sounds better, you like the screen better, it seems to have everything you wanted in a workstation? Go for it and be happy with it.
But just don't try to trash a M3 because it has a "tiny little" screen or it doesn't sound like the 8000$ Oasys or you can't figure out in the first 10 minutes how karma works.

The screen on the M-3 is not "tiny". The screen on my CP-300 is "tiny"

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i would have to agree with GregC in the 1st post ..... BOTH ..

i have a M3 ... ( traded in my Extreme and Radias-R )
still waiting for my Free Exb-Rad ..!!!

i also have a Virus Ti desktop , and a S90ES ... which i'm seriuosly considering trading in on the G8 ...!!!

if the sounds stack up to the features ... i think the G8 and M3/ExbRad will be a powerfull combo ..!!

i've had several Roland keyboards w/ several SRX cards ,... and i grew very tired of those sounds .... i have not had any Fantom products ..
hopefully it's much more than a fancy re-packaging ... that all manufactures have become very good at ..!

i agree that the M3 takes some work ... as it lacks the multitude of sounds in the Extreme .... but i understand and appreciate their approach . At least now i have space for tweeked patches without having to map out were to put them , like i did on the Extreme ... and the lesser amount of factory patches have several tweeks just waiting for You to turn on ....

i had also had Yamaha keys for quite a while and grew tired of the same old sounds .... the piano in the S90ES is pretty good , but i want something better ... sounds like the G8 might be it ..!?? i hope ...

and as far as the Oasys goes .... do i want one .. sorta ... does it sound wonderful ... yep .... can i afford it .... yep ... is it really worth the price of admission ... i just don't think so ... ( same thing i thought about the K2600X ... until i found a seriously discounted demo unit ) ....
so i think value/features for the dollar ... the G8 holds up well ..!!

as i said .... BOTH ...

DC

Every person is different and their opinion also. It comes from their taste of music and playing patterns. Likewise every instrument model is different even if it is from the same company. In my opinion, what we have basically, to look for is; the easiness in use, the quality of sounds, innovative features, ability of the instrument to accomplish our imaginations. Then choose the instrument, don't fall in the prejudiced comments.