Korg, please fix the responsiveness of the damn touch screen

[hitektodd]

+1 drag and drop.
I assumed when I bought the Kronos that I would be able to drag faders and knobs right on the screen. This would solve a lot of the fader jumping that happens while playing live. Imagine Polysix, seems like a no brainier to me. What could korg be thinking?
I would also love to see korg develop the setlist mode a bit more. Mabye a tab that turns half the screen into select and drag faders and knobs that you can custom assign to your most used parameters with a "learn" function. Similar to mainstage. A bit of smart programming from korg could easily make Kronos the stage musicians keyboard of choice. It isn't as it stands. Although its sooo close.
I'm sure a musician programmer could come up with many advancements that would exceed my expectations, unfortunately korg has really dropped the ball here in my opinion.
I've had my Kronos for about a month and I'm only just starting to get it setup to work the way I want it to. And I'm a fairly advanced synth/keyboard user. It shouldn't be this hard! The shopping list of Kronos hangups really stifles my creativity. I actually regret selling my stage ex compact for its ease of use on stage. Quick and easy to setup splits and layer bread and butter sounds, one knob functionality (or close to). I miss it.

[SeedyLee]

That's why resistive display are used on keyboards (and I hope that the manufacturers don't switch to capacitive displays)

No, they are used because they are cheaper. Capacitives are much better in just about everything, and they're a logical advancement even in keyboards. It must and it will happen.

Didnt they already with the krome?

No, the Krome uses a resistive touch screen just like the Kronos. It feels more accurate because of the larger ui elements, and drag and drop is all done in software.

[NuSkoolTone]

I must admit the screen response does concern me when I make this my main gigging board later this coming year. We don't use set lists and do things on the fly. I need something that responds FAST!

[neomad]

No, they are used because they are cheaper. Capacitives are much better in just about everything, and they're a logical advancement even in keyboards. It must and it will happen.

Didnt they already with the krome?

No, the Krome uses a resistive touch screen just like the Kronos. It feels more accurate because of the larger ui elements, and drag and drop is all done in software.

+1. Many UI things can be solved by software.

[Saxifraga]

I must admit the screen response does concern me when I make this my main gigging board later this coming year. We don't use set lists and do things on the fly. I need something that responds FAST!

Forget it. If you don´t do it the Korg 90ties way you have to buy an other machine (which one?). Set List mode is the way to go. And I don´t see why you would be unwilling to use it?

But you have plenty of modulation possibilities without tweaking the edit parameters directly. And you have the modulation bus AMS (alternate modulation source) which is quite flexible.

So to use the Korg means mastering it´s engine of your choice and the quirky wayback machine UI. Route the parameters you want to modulate via AMS to the controllers you have and SAVE! Bring the sound program into you setlist and SAVE! Voila. You are ready to go.

And don´t forget to bring your fully loaded backup battery or geothermal generator.

[jeremykeys]

@Nuskooltone. Hi there. I do a fair bit of improve keyboard work and have found my Kronos 73 to be the best synth I've ever used. I played my first gig in 1969 so I like to think I have at least a bit of a clue.

I've found that for "on the fly" type gigs yu need to set up a setlist with just a couple of useful combis.
For example, build one with say piano, organ, mellotron and lead synth. You can easily have these as either velocity layers or as I prefer sometimes, full sounds and I use the faders to bring in whatever sound I want while playing live. I use the footswitch to advance my setlist sound and have my damper pedal changing leslie speeds for my organ. My volume pedal only affects what I want it to.

it does take a bit of getting used to but once you do you'd be amazed at how easy it is to have whatever sound you want right at your fingertips.

I'm going to a fusion jam party this weekend and I need to have a ton of sounds instantly available. I'm just going to build a few combis and I'll be fine. These jams always get recorded so I need to have a finishing limiter as my final MFX but I know I'll be fine.

[neomad]

@Nuskooltone. Hi there. I do a fair bit of improve keyboard work and have found my Kronos 73 to be the best synth I've ever used. I played my first gig in 1969 so I like to think I have at least a bit of a clue.

I've found that for "on the fly" type gigs yu need to set up a setlist with just a couple of useful combis.
For example, build one with say piano, organ, mellotron and lead synth. You can easily have these as either velocity layers or as I prefer sometimes, full sounds and I use the faders to bring in whatever sound I want while playing live. I use the footswitch to advance my setlist sound and have my damper pedal changing leslie speeds for my organ. My volume pedal only affects what I want it to.

it does take a bit of getting used to but once you do you'd be amazed at how easy it is to have whatever sound you want right at your fingertips.

I'm going to a fusion jam party this weekend and I need to have a ton of sounds instantly available. I'm just going to build a few combis and I'll be fine. These jams always get recorded so I need to have a finishing limiter as my final MFX but I know I'll be fine.

Good tips !

My 2 cts: I use to create GM-kind combis for gigs. Example: a-pianos- b-chromatic - c-organs etc. etc. With 2 buttons I've desired sound.

By the way, I found setlist feature quite useful (even is SST is not the best compared to my old Alesis Fusion).

What about screen?

[NuSkoolTone]

@Nuskooltone. Hi there. I do a fair bit of improve keyboard work and have found my Kronos 73 to be the best synth I've ever used. I played my first gig in 1969 so I like to think I have at least a bit of a clue.

I've found that for "on the fly" type gigs yu need to set up a setlist with just a couple of useful combis.
For example, build one with say piano, organ, mellotron and lead synth. You can easily have these as either velocity layers or as I prefer sometimes, full sounds and I use the faders to bring in whatever sound I want while playing live. I use the footswitch to advance my setlist sound and have my damper pedal changing leslie speeds for my organ. My volume pedal only affects what I want it to.

it does take a bit of getting used to but once you do you'd be amazed at how easy it is to have whatever sound you want right at your fingertips.

I'm going to a fusion jam party this weekend and I need to have a ton of sounds instantly available. I'm just going to build a few combis and I'll be fine. These jams always get recorded so I need to have a finishing limiter as my final MFX but I know I'll be fine.

I find those methods useful for generic songs that need basic sounds, however my patches are very specific. We do a lot of top40 dance music and I pull out all the stops: The sounds themselves, layers, splits, samples etc...What seems to work best is being in combi mode with everything put into custom categories (50's/60's, Rock, Disco, Modern Disco, Medlies, etc...) and then choosing between them with only one or two button presses. The whole thing I find is often the presses don't register requiring multiple presses. Even my M50 is superior in this regard. For some things I'll jump back and forth with setlist as that's more forgiving, but it's not enough on it's own for my needs.

[Teejay]

+1 drag and drop.
I assumed when I bought the Kronos that I would be able to drag faders and knobs right on the screen. This would solve a lot of the fader jumping that happens while playing live. Imagine Polysix, seems like a no brainier to me. What could korg be thinking?

I'm sure a musician programmer could come up with many advancements that would exceed my expectations, unfortunately korg has really dropped the ball here in my opinion.

I've had my Kronos for about a month and I'm only just starting to get it setup to work the way I want it to. And I'm a fairly advanced synth/keyboard user. It shouldn't be this hard! The shopping list of Kronos hangups really stifles my creativity.

What Hitektodd said.

I love this keyboard, but in soooo many ways its just like all my old Roland gear: designed for Musicians by Engineers with manuals written by technical writers versus users.

There are so many convolutions needed to make this pretty bird do ANTHING. While its flexible, it seems like the Engineers did everything they could to make everything as difficult as possible - from the tiny icons on the tap screen (and let's call it that, 'cause a mere "touch" is insufficient - one needs to deliberately aim and tap) to the simplest tasks like making it sync and send MIDI...

But y'know what? I'm not gonna bitch. I'm happy to have it, and will gladly volunteer to contribute, at no charge, to Korg's development team, if they want my input.

Like any other complex system, one must first "unlearn their expectations", and then embrace the always-flawed implementations of whatever system they've been tasked to Master. That's Darwinism at its core- evolve or perish.

Just sayin'...

[sl72]

+1 drag and drop.
I assumed when I bought the Kronos that I would be able to drag faders and knobs right on the screen. This would solve a lot of the fader jumping that happens while playing live. Imagine Polysix, seems like a no brainier to me. What could korg be thinking?

I'm sure a musician programmer could come up with many advancements that would exceed my expectations, unfortunately korg has really dropped the ball here in my opinion.

I've had my Kronos for about a month and I'm only just starting to get it setup to work the way I want it to. And I'm a fairly advanced synth/keyboard user. It shouldn't be this hard! The shopping list of Kronos hangups really stifles my creativity.

What Hitektodd said.

I love this keyboard, but in soooo many ways its just like all my old Roland gear: designed for Musicians by Engineers with manuals written by technical writers versus users.

There are so many convolutions needed to make this pretty bird do ANTHING. While its flexible, it seems like the Engineers did everything they could to make everything as difficult as possible - from the tiny icons on the tap screen (and let's call it that, 'cause a mere "touch" is insufficient - one needs to deliberately aim and tap) to the simplest tasks like making it sync and send MIDI...

But y'know what? I'm not gonna bitch. I'm happy to have it, and will gladly volunteer to contribute, at no charge, to Korg's development team, if they want my input.

Like any other complex system, one must first "unlearn their expectations", and then embrace the always-flawed implementations of whatever system they've been tasked to Master. That's Darwinism at its core- evolve or perish.

Just sayin'...

+1!

[RlaRed]

I have to totally agree. I just used the Kronos the other night and the touch screen is SO much easier to use. If they'd just make an option to make everything bigger, it would solve so many problems. I wouldn't mind having to scroll more or having more tabs honestly if everything was bigger.

I can't figure out why they don't do this, other than they just don't feel like spending the resources on it. It's a real bummer because the screen is nice and big and high resolution but it just sucks using it right now.

[jeremykeys]

I have to wonder if Korg was thinking that live players wouldn't be using the touch screen as much as we are. I have to admit that for me it entirely depends on the gig. In my duo I'm using it a lot as we don't have set lists and I need to be able to call up whatever sound I need for whatever song we're playing. Mostly piano but sometimes layers or Rhodes. My heavy band is another story. I hardly touch the screen at all except to get to the next set. I use my foot switch to advance each sound as necessary.
I think this is what the engineers at Korg though us players would do.
Either that or the though never came up at all.

Just kidding!