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.Jens wrote:Kronos 61 on top,
'79 CX3 in the middle
Doepfer LMK4+ (88 hammer action) on the bottom

The CX3 as well as the Doepfer don't have any controls or screens on the top - so I modified my stand in a way that the three tiers can stand upon each other directly - with no unnecessary spacing in the vertical direction. It's all very compact and tight together

Do you still need the CX3 as it is already in the Kronos?

michelkeijzers wrote:

.Jens wrote:Kronos 61 on top,
'79 CX3 in the middle
Doepfer LMK4+ (88 hammer action) on the bottom

The CX3 as well as the Doepfer don't have any controls or screens on the top - so I modified my stand in a way that the three tiers can stand upon each other directly - with no unnecessary spacing in the vertical direction. It's all very compact and tight together

Do you still need the CX3 as it is already in the Kronos?

Depends on what you mean with "need"

First of all: It's a first generation CX3 (the analog one - I should have written 1979 instead of '79). That's far from being a good "hammond clone" - but it has a quite unique sound which isn't covered by the new CX3 nor the CX engine of the kronos. Above, I really like the builtin OD, it really has "balls".

Second: I like to have a hammer action and a lightweight action simultaneously anyway, but I play a lot of organ sounds besides pianos and synth stuff. So, a third tier dedicated to organs is a must for me. Could be a cheap midi keyboard instead triggering a Kronos organ, but I already have it, so why not use it?

Third: After long years of waiting I finally have two lightweight tiers for dual manual organ playing again.

At the moment, I am doing more jazzy things on the Kronos (when it has to sound close to a real thing) - and crunchy to heavily distorted stuff on the old lady. And this brings me to another point: On the old organ, I am not afraid of doing crazy slides and rough playing on it, as well as wild drawbar wiggling (besides, I like the feel of the drawbars much better than the kronos sliders). If I break anything, well, I just lose the separate organ - and it served me well for almost 20 years now, so this wouldn't be painful.

So, if this answers your question? One last point should not be left unmentioned: I cannot stand it and sell this thing. I like it. I bought it when I was 17...

Kronos + Korg X50 controlling a rack containig 2 Roland JV 1080

As of now Kronos X 61 on Top Korg M3 73 at bottom. M3 split, Piano on right and strings or brass on left. Kronos with my Hammond samples.

Most of the time I can gwt by w/ just the Kronos just to taje up less space. But my when I perform at larger venues, I put the Kronos on bottom, the Fantom G7 on top, and the Motif XS7 to the left. I also use tge Rolaland AX Synth midied to a fantom x module. I also do a 'One Man Band' thing that requires all keyboards mentioned because transfering all of those sequences containing vocal samples on the Fantom and Motif is soooo time consuming! But one day, I hope to narrow it down to the Kronos and AX synth!

I've done a couple things. Most of the time I've been live, I've doubled it with an Axiom49 controller connected via USB. But I've also used my Prophecy, and have used my iPad running a couple apps. It's been a few months since I've played out as a keyboardist, so depending on what group I'm playing with, I might end up doubling it up with the PC361 or maybe the V-Synth. I still much prefer the PC3 organ to the Kronos, anyway.

I use the Virus TI on top. It has a different sound to the OASYS/Kronos that I find to be a perfect compliment.

PianoManChuck wrote:

runningman67 wrote:Kronos and Guinness goes well

I found that the Kronos responds well when its player has had other brands of beer too! Maybe a poll is in order as to which brand works best?

Well, it's not a poll but for me at the gig I start off with Coors Light draft and then later on switch it up to Kilkenney. MNind you I'm also fond of Smithwicks and Guiness of course but I find the heavy ales tend to coat my throat too much for singing. Someone mentioned Molson Dry in Holland? Wow! I never thought you could get that there. Cool! Tha'ts one I used to drink several years ago. Nowadays I tend to head in the light alcohol direction. My wife likes Strongbow cider.
At home in my studio I can have whatever I want And right now it's a Churchkey Red ale.

As for what I use live besides my Kronos 73. I have used my Wavestation EX on a separate reverse tilted stand once but that was only for a jam. I would like to incorporate it into my set-up but that's going to require time for programming and space in my car. I do like the look of it on the reverse tilt stand though.

This is a reverse tilt stand in use:
http://www.myspace.com/dereksherinian20 ... %3A2882260}

I am running a Roland Fantom G7 (with ARX02 & ARX03 boards installed) on my top tier and a K73 with a Nanopad2 on the bottom tier.

Sharp wrote:...My OASYS... switched off The KRONOS is just so much better...

Still remembering the good old times with a tear in my eyes...
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On topic: I don't use Kronos, but OASYS-88 with Jupiter-80 on top.

SV1RV and Kronos for me...

Kronos 61 on the lower, Clavia Nord Modular G2X on the upper. I like synths:)

Kronos88 on the left, TEX88/Moss on the right.

THANK YOU KORG!!!

.Jens wrote: First of all: It's a first generation CX3 (the analog one - I should have written 1979 instead of '79). That's far from being a good "hammond clone" - but it has a quite unique sound which isn't covered by the new CX3 nor the CX engine of the kronos. Above, I really like the builtin OD, it really has "balls".

Second: I like to have a hammer action and a lightweight action simultaneously anyway, but I play a lot of organ sounds besides pianos and synth stuff. So, a third tier dedicated to organs is a must for me. Could be a cheap midi keyboard instead triggering a Kronos organ, but I already have it, so why not use it?

Third: After long years of waiting I finally have two lightweight tiers for dual manual organ playing again.

At the moment, I am doing more jazzy things on the Kronos (when it has to sound close to a real thing) - and crunchy to heavily distorted stuff on the old lady. And this brings me to another point: On the old organ, I am not afraid of doing crazy slides and rough playing on it, as well as wild drawbar wiggling (besides, I like the feel of the drawbars much better than the kronos sliders). If I break anything, well, I just lose the separate organ - and it served me well for almost 20 years now, so this wouldn't be painful.

Coming back to keyboard a lot of years after my jazz and classical training, I find I'm liking the Kronos's CX-3 just too much, maybe because playing anything like a real organ is new for me. All the synth stuff is great, but I've found I'm always gravitating back to the pianos, EP's, and organ. In that case, I'm now thinking of getting a Nord C2D to complement my Kronos. Am I nuts?

JimmyTheSaint wrote:

.Jens wrote: First of all: It's a first generation CX3 (the analog one - I should have written 1979 instead of '79). That's far from being a good "hammond clone" - but it has a quite unique sound which isn't covered by the new CX3 nor the CX engine of the kronos. Above, I really like the builtin OD, it really has "balls".

Second: I like to have a hammer action and a lightweight action simultaneously anyway, but I play a lot of organ sounds besides pianos and synth stuff. So, a third tier dedicated to organs is a must for me. Could be a cheap midi keyboard instead triggering a Kronos organ, but I already have it, so why not use it?

Third: After long years of waiting I finally have two lightweight tiers for dual manual organ playing again.

At the moment, I am doing more jazzy things on the Kronos (when it has to sound close to a real thing) - and crunchy to heavily distorted stuff on the old lady. And this brings me to another point: On the old organ, I am not afraid of doing crazy slides and rough playing on it, as well as wild drawbar wiggling (besides, I like the feel of the drawbars much better than the kronos sliders). If I break anything, well, I just lose the separate organ - and it served me well for almost 20 years now, so this wouldn't be painful.

Coming back to keyboard a lot of years after my jazz and classical training, I find I'm liking the Kronos's CX-3 just too much, maybe because playing anything like a real organ is new for me. All the synth stuff is great, but I've found I'm always gravitating back to the pianos, EP's, and organ. In that case, I'm now thinking of getting a Nord C2D to complement my Kronos. Am I nuts?

Not nuts. I happen to think the CX-3 sound engine is pretty good - once you learn how to tweak it. But to really take the organ experience to the next level you need a waterfall keyboard with organ action and drawbars. Trying to do palm smears and those machine gun staccato runs on a K88 is just not the same.

I like having 3 keyboards - not so much for the sounds (Kronos is good for everything) but for the different keyboard actions. A fully weighted 88 is a must for piano and good for EP. A semi weighted synth action for synths and many orchestral instruments, and a waterfall keyboard for organs.

If somebody sold a dual manual synth with a weighted 88 and a waterfall 61, I'd be in line to buy one, provided it is not too extremely heavy and bulky.

A long time ago, I wanted to build a keybed that had a voicecoil for each key. - basically a servomechanism for each key's dynamics. That way, you could tune the action for your personal preference, and adjust it patch by patch. You'd have a knob that adjusted it anywhere from heavy weighted action to unweighted and anywhere in between. Maybe I should revive that idea and get busy.