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ddavilyx wrote:burningbusch, that was very nice. If you've read my other threads you would see when I wrote that motif sounds don't come buried in reverb.

They are not buried in reverb. You must like everything sounding like it's in open space or a completely dead room with no acoustic properties whatsoever. Or you're just being a dingdong and arguing for the sake of it, which is more likely.

While the Motif XF sounds very nice, I hardly think it's worth the asking price, especially when the Kronos, as busch demonstrates, sounds better.

However, since your one point seems to be that the Mo does nylon guitar better, maybe I'll swing by Guitar Center with a set of Sennheizers and check it out. But since I have a number of instruments which already have very good acoustic guitar samples, I'd better be blown away by the XF or I'm not going to acknowledge your presence again until you make a worthwhile post that actually contributes something to the community.

As for lead guitars on KORG synths, I've actually had the easiest time doing what I want on them, just changing instruments and tweaking things until I get what I want, and it's very easy. Should I brag that I'm a better programmer than most of you?

Here's the thing. If you REALLY want the Yamaha guitar sounds, get either the XS Rack or a MOX6. You can get these for around $1,000. Why pay for an XF when the vast majority of these sounds are in these cheaper models.

But, a far more sensible approach, at least for me is to either sample the Yamaha sounds for your own use or better yet use a better library and bring them into the Konos sampler. Re-sampling guitars is one of the easiest things ti re-sample. You pull them off the SSD and it's very quick.

Busch.

synthguy, the Kronos doesn't sound better. It wasn't stock voices. Did you read what he said? He said he had a breath control on his patches. How is that a comparison really. Would if we put a breath on the motif flutes and brass too it would sound exactly the same. Go figure. And yes I'm a dingdong and so are you lol.

PinkFloydDudi, I have his instructional videos and clips etc. I know what this guy can do but he's not doing it. That's just a demo dude. And I do my research well, I've seen this video a year ago. I'm just saying he should play in a jazz club sometimes. And that's jazz but it's not piano jazz. I like his stuff so much I want to hear jazz pieces like "Autumn in New York" or "White Christmas".

ddavilyx wrote:synthguy, the Kronos doesn't sound better. It wasn't stock voices. Did you read what he said? He said he had a breath control on his patches. How is that a comparison really. Would if we put a breath on the motif flutes and brass too it would sound exactly the same. Go figure. And yes I'm a dingdong and so are you lol.

The Kronos sounds A LOT better, IMO. The Yamaha brass is surprisingly weak, cheap sounding.

I DID NOT use breath controller. The examples were ALL played keyboard-only as I posted above: "Some are versions of my breath controller programs adapted for keyboard only playing."

The Yamaha WOULD NOT sound immediately better with BC as you're dealing with a much weaker samplset.

Here's one of the Kronos trumpets played with breath control.

Kronos Mies Trumpet with backing track.

Busch.

burningbusch, are you sure bro? Nothing is as good as the VL. I owned the PLG too and using the breath controller, none of these keyboards come close to it. Not even the XS or the XF. I wish YAMAHA would have left the breath control option.

burningbusch, very nice but not much of a difference. The PLG VL has better breath controlling and naturalism.

ddavilyx wrote:burningbusch, very nice but not much of a difference. The PLG VL has better breath controlling and naturalism.

The VL series simply cannot reproduce these brass/winds tones accurately. Put them up on a scope and compare them to real trumpets/saxes, etc and you'll find they don't match up well at all. The expressiveness and playability overwhelm the fact that the tone is OFF. And when used in ensembles, they sound wretched, for the most part.

Here's a VSL (soft synth) Trumpet played in realtime using breath control.

VSL Trumpet in C Breath Control

Busch.

I've now realized that ddavilex is just a pure troll. I feel stupid it took me so long.

SanderXpander wrote:I've now realized that ddavilex is just a pure troll. I feel stupid it took me so long.

*thumbs up smiley face*

Hehe. Thanks to burningbusch though for those excellent sound samples!

The Kronos has 314 MB & 1,505 multisamples

The XF’s ROM is 741MB & It contains 3,977 waveforms and it's weak? Hhmmm...

PinkFloydDudi, you'll learn soon.

SanderXpander, haha you are stupid j/k

This thread is going no where and is now deeply boring...