Any Signs of a Kronos Replacement?

Discussion relating to the Korg Kronos Workstation.

Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever

psionic311
Platinum Member
Posts: 1046
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:57 am
Location: Orlando, Florida USA

Post by psionic311 »

I agree. The Kronos is still going strong enough as their flagship workstation. Although it's exciting to think 2020 NAMM could be the year they upgrade, it's more realistic to be thankful for what we have now.

The initial idea with the Open Architecture System, embodied in the Oasys and Kronos and even Muse Receptor, has all been succeeded by software "in the box" (ITB). Korg itself is a leader there where they basically exported all the Kronos engines into Gadget.

Still, there are a couple areas in the Kronos that software hasn't totally bested it yet -- MOD7, STR-1, and no fuss latency-free streaming samples.

I'm thinking the best way to get an upgraded hardware workstation experience is to just augment the Kronos with something like an iPad for more synth, FX, groovebox, and sequencing capabilities. Powerful, portable, and plug and play.
User avatar
Derek Cook
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 1290
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm
Location: Wales, UK
Contact:

Post by Derek Cook »

I agree as well, which is why I have purchased the best that Korg and Yamaha currently offer and have then have paired them with a small NUC PC in my gig rack which is powerful enough to run any VSTi I have.
Derek Cook - Java Developer

Image

Follow kronos.factory development and submit ideas over at the kronos.factory Trello Board

My Echoes Music Website
My Carreg Ddu Music Website
Kevbo
Posts: 41
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:36 am

Post by Kevbo »

Derek Cook wrote:I agree as well, which is why I have purchased the best that Korg and Yamaha currently offer and have then have paired them with a small NUC PC in my gig rack which is powerful enough to run any VSTi I have.
I have a Kronos VST, and like any other "entire keyboard VST" I got, they sound very tinny. No bass or depth to them at all. Other VSTs I have purchased that are strictly company made VSTs, they sound amazing. But My Kronos and Motif VSTs sound horrible. I mean, the sound is there, but they just sound dead, and that was even after adjusting the balance.
voip
Platinum Member
Posts: 4003
Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:07 pm

Post by voip »

A Kronos VST won't be a Korg product, so won't have the sonic potential of the original instrument.
User avatar
KK
Platinum Member
Posts: 1522
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:01 am

Post by KK »

Kevbo wrote:I have a Kronos VST, and like any other "entire keyboard VST" I got, they sound very tinny. No bass or depth to them at all.
There's probably a few reasons why a real Kronos is worth more and sounds infinitely better than a 90$ VST. 8)
benny ray
Platinum Member
Posts: 628
Joined: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:53 pm

Post by benny ray »

KK wrote:
Kevbo wrote:I have a Kronos VST, and like any other "entire keyboard VST" I got, they sound very tinny. No bass or depth to them at all.
There's probably a few reasons why a real Kronos is worth more and sounds infinitely better than a 90$ VST. 8)
Well put KK
K2 Kronos 88, Mojo 61, Korg CX3, Roland FANTOM 7
User avatar
Derek Cook
Approved Merchant
Approved Merchant
Posts: 1290
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm
Location: Wales, UK
Contact:

Post by Derek Cook »

Kevbo wrote:
Derek Cook wrote:I agree as well, which is why I have purchased the best that Korg and Yamaha currently offer and have then have paired them with a small NUC PC in my gig rack which is powerful enough to run any VSTi I have.
I have a Kronos VST, and like any other "entire keyboard VST" I got, they sound very tinny. No bass or depth to them at all. Other VSTs I have purchased that are strictly company made VSTs, they sound amazing. But My Kronos and Motif VSTs sound horrible. I mean, the sound is there, but they just sound dead, and that was even after adjusting the balance.
I can't say I have ever heard of a Kronos VSTi, but the problem would be trying to capture all the depth, subtleties and power of all the different engines in what I guess is a sample based instrument. Why it is tinny, I cannot say.
Derek Cook - Java Developer

Image

Follow kronos.factory development and submit ideas over at the kronos.factory Trello Board

My Echoes Music Website
My Carreg Ddu Music Website
kathnrich1
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:21 pm

korg kronos LS 73?

Post by kathnrich1 »

Korg really needs to follow in Yamaha's lineup of a keyboard size and weight for many. To have an LS 73 on the line would be big. THE only reason I purchased the 73 is because of,,,73 keys. It is horribly heavy to transport.
KORG, bring on the LS version of the 73 for crickey sakes!!
User avatar
janrhansen
Junior Member
Posts: 68
Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:40 pm
Location: Odense, Denmark

Re: korg kronos LS 73?

Post by janrhansen »

kathnrich1 wrote:Korg really needs to follow in Yamaha's lineup of a keyboard size and weight for many. To have an LS 73 on the line would be big. THE only reason I purchased the 73 is because of,,,73 keys. It is horribly heavy to transport.
KORG, bring on the LS version of the 73 for crickey sakes!!
The problem with the Kronos LS is, the keys really arent that great, and lacking aftertouch is a dealbreaker for a lot of us .. at least I think it is. Would rather have seen a Kronos 76 .. stop the ackward 73 key size .. with 76 Synth keys w/ afterouch like the 61 model. Its really cheap of Korg not to put in an aftertouch strip. wouldn't have made a diff in the cost of the product. The LS 88 is still a top priced product without aftertouch (cost more than a Kronos 2 73).
Korg Kronos 2-73, Crumar Mojo 61, Roland A90ex, Yamaha Genos 2, Korg T3, NI Kontrol S61MkIII, Roland PK5, Roland R-8m, Roland SC-88, Digitech Vocalist-II, Presonus Studio1824c, Behringer ADA8200, Cubase Pro 14
PatrickD
Full Member
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:36 pm
Location: Yakima Washington

Post by PatrickD »

I am usually not wiling to comment on this subject as I don't know what is going on in the minds of Korg research.
That said having been around this synth/keyboard world for 25 or so years I am still amazed at the evolution and progress made in the world of sound creation and the beauty of what can be made for the edification of my soul and others who listen to whats being produced.
If my opinion is at all valid I would say if I am a Japanese giant like Korg I will live by the same edict I learned while working for Sony years back and that is I must always save face in how the world perceives me. If that premise is still a motivator then the workstation/ synth world will benefit from my new instrument development and the marketing position I maintain will not be so out of reach that I can sell more of what I make to a hungry group of buyers.
My point is Korg is at a crossroads with the Oaysis/Kronos group. New buyers aside the old market is inwardly screaming for a legitimate new and improved idea. I just hope its not VST market you can have it we are done.
KRONOS 2 88, Roland A800,
Yamaha YC61, Casio PX560 Roland Integra 7
CUBASE 14 Halion 6
GregC
Platinum Member
Posts: 9451
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 12:46 am
Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)

Post by GregC »

FYI, Korg is not a giant, not in the corporate electronics world. I would guess 350-450 big ones in annual sales.

See you next year ;). My tea leaves flew out the car window on the freeway.
Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams :)
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994
PatrickD
Full Member
Posts: 228
Joined: Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:36 pm
Location: Yakima Washington

Post by PatrickD »

True they don't have the sales numbers of a company like Yamaha but in the musical instrument production world they are in terms of innovation Oasys being an example of dedication to a different direction. We'll see soon I believe if a ground shaking comes forth. One can only hope. I dont live for it but it would be fun. BTW Greg hows it goin?
Yamaha makes so much more in the way of company crossover to other arenas and they dwarf Korg :D
KRONOS 2 88, Roland A800,
Yamaha YC61, Casio PX560 Roland Integra 7
CUBASE 14 Halion 6
GregC
Platinum Member
Posts: 9451
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 12:46 am
Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)

Post by GregC »

PatrickD wrote:True they don't have the sales numbers of a company like Yamaha but in the musical instrument production world they are in terms of innovation Oasys being an example of dedication to a different direction. We'll see soon I believe if a ground shaking comes forth. One can only hope. I dont live for it but it would be fun. BTW Greg hows it goin?
Yamaha makes so much more in the way of company crossover to other arenas and they dwarf Korg :D
Great to see you hear, Patrick. I am still banging out new songs that sound old.

I think we have seen all the new product announcements from Korg.

Some chance that Korg will toss us Kronos owners a treat by end of month.
Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams :)
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994
kronoSphere
Platinum Member
Posts: 726
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:56 am

Post by kronoSphere »

the Kronos was, and is an outcome in itself. The future Korg workstation must abandon the remains of the Kronos. Our agile fingers will certainly be able to acclimatize to a completely new future machine. They run ! :D
trees are going fast.

https://www.lairdeparis.fr

Current Gear : Kronos 88 / Seaboard Rise / Triton Extreme / Sequoia / Motif Rack XS / TC Helicon voicelive rack /Awave 11 / Audio & VSTi plug-ins connected /wide touchscreen / iPad Pro 512.
Post Reply

Return to “Korg Kronos”