hello
I'm preparing musicians and different usb sets. I want to keep this set of copy protection. How can I protect against copying the data in the USB memory. set it to work when copied to another location will be specific to the USB memory. Is there anyone who can help me for this? I spend a lot of effort to set and I do not want this to my food to go to waste. thanks
protect usb set ?
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karmathanever
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USB and data protection has been asked about many times regarding copying of data from an unattended PA3X.
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pc_maniaaa
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There are people selling usb kit on the market. works when plugged into the USB Pa3X set. If you remove the USB memory Pa3X run pcm files does not work. Files in the USB memory does not work unless copied to another memory. This memory can be how to prepare. I have the sounds I made for myself and these special to me. I want to do such a protection to me. To do this, please show me the way. How can this protection process. I can think of to do in the future as commercial. I have had such a memory. Pa3X protected memory can install and sound are working as long as it is connected. but without memory installed by executing the sound does not work. I'm sorry my english is not very good in it:-)
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Reuben
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I think I understand what you want. You want to be able to make a set file that will only work with a USB stick and cannot be copied.
This my friend is far beyond the capabilities of us humble keyboard players.
You would need to understand and modify the Operating system. Yes its possible because such sets are available commercially but not many would know how to do this or be willing to share the secret.
This my friend is far beyond the capabilities of us humble keyboard players.
You would need to understand and modify the Operating system. Yes its possible because such sets are available commercially but not many would know how to do this or be willing to share the secret.
Yeah, you can't just encrypt the data on your flash drive with a random software and expect it to work on these keyboards in a certain way. I'm not %100 sure, but I think this is some information that KORG would only provide for select developers so they can protect their resources from being pirated.
Sam
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Dikikeys
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Is this simply paranoia, or has anyone ACTUALLY had their gig data copied and stolen, then used to compete against you professionally?
Yes, I imagine that some light-fingered kids might jack your USB stick, but that's simple theft. They almost definitely don't care what data is on it, they just want to get a thrill lifting something (or a few bucks for selling it), and it's unlikely in the extreme that they too have a Korg arranger and could actually use the data.
Honestly, this is the second or third post along these lines I've seen here lately... Does anyone have an actual story of this happening to them? That their data was stolen, put in another Korg, and used to steal gigs away from you?
Or has paranoia got the better of you?
Yes, I imagine that some light-fingered kids might jack your USB stick, but that's simple theft. They almost definitely don't care what data is on it, they just want to get a thrill lifting something (or a few bucks for selling it), and it's unlikely in the extreme that they too have a Korg arranger and could actually use the data.
Honestly, this is the second or third post along these lines I've seen here lately... Does anyone have an actual story of this happening to them? That their data was stolen, put in another Korg, and used to steal gigs away from you?
Or has paranoia got the better of you?
Dikikeys,
I think the problem is, you're judging the situation based on your personal experience. That's simply not enough to cover all possible scenarios for everybody. This is a valid question and obviously you do NOT know the answer to it. Maybe the guy is a developer and wants to protect his stuff from being copied and shared for free. Obviously KORG has addressed the problem for some developers as protected encrypted SETs DO exist, so there's a real answer for the question...You just don't know it, and don't need it....Hope that helped!
I think the problem is, you're judging the situation based on your personal experience. That's simply not enough to cover all possible scenarios for everybody. This is a valid question and obviously you do NOT know the answer to it. Maybe the guy is a developer and wants to protect his stuff from being copied and shared for free. Obviously KORG has addressed the problem for some developers as protected encrypted SETs DO exist, so there's a real answer for the question...You just don't know it, and don't need it....Hope that helped!
Sam
I would say a Precaution rather than a paranoia, whatever the situation.Dikikeys,
Is this simply paranoia, or has anyone ACTUALLY had their gig data copied and stolen,
Ask yourself why you close the doors of your house/apartment or your car and ask how many times you have been robbed or your stuff/car have been stolen, I hope that never happens to anybody.
It's not always about the paranoia it could be simply about precaution/safety. Prevention is better than cure my friend.
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pc_maniaaa
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Dikikeys
Still ZERO incidents...
Sure, most people lock their doors when they leave the house. But that is because many people HAVE had their houses broken into. If NO-ONE had had their house ever broken into, don't you think that fewer people (if any) would bother locking it?
That's the situation... no-one apparently HAS had their custom data stolen and used. But you all want to worry about it. Isn't there more important things to worry about? Like your car being stolen, or your keyboard, or your health care drying up? You know, things that actually happen to real people...
Look, I can understand that a sound designer that wants to sell custom samples would like access to the system that some companies use to copy protect their work. And in this age of rampant piracy, that's perfectly reasonable. But that is a BUSINESS decision in response to a REAL, demonstrable need (sample piracy of commercial data is global). And Korg DO have a system where businesses that they choose to work with can copy protect their data.
But locking down an entire arranger to prevent your personal data being copied (rather than simply removing the stick and putting it in your pocket) is simple paranoia until someone can show it happening. So far, no-one has.
The simple expedient of securing your arranger and its data either in a locked case, or removing the data in the first place is all any of us except commercial sample or style developers need. TBH, let's be honest... If your data is worth that much to determined thieves, password protecting your HD isn't going to help much, is it? The OP needs to contact Korg and persuade them to partner him like they do Deebach etc. if his sounds are THAT good and he has a solid business plan to market them. And, if they aren't, what are the odds anyone WANTS to steal it..?
The irrational response to non-existent (or barely existent) threats has made our modern world the mess it is nowadays. We ignore things that actually DO threaten us (global warming, income inequality and the marginalization of working classes worldwide) to worry about stuff that never happens.
Until someone, somewhere actually DOES steal someone's custom samples from a Korg, and use them to either compete for the jobs you have now, or puts them on Rapidgator or some other 'sharing' sites for all to use for free, how about we worry about REAL stuff?
You know, I see quite a bit of irony in the idea of copy protected data. I know that sites are quite popular where people 'share' styles, one even posts here. Where is the concern about the security of style data? Where is the concern for the guy that writes great styles and watches them become public domain before he's made a decent income for his effort? Where's the outcry for protected data areas so style makers can sell you a style, and it's impossible for you to 'share' it?
It seems that everyone is concerned here that something of THEIRS might be stolen. But little thought to what they are doing by going to style 'sharing' sites or SMF 'sharing' sites, and doing the exact same thing to someone ELSE....
Let's be honest... styles and SMF's and karaoke MP3 backing tracks are being 'stolen' and 'shared' every day. But so far, not one single person has one single report of their own personal samples stolen and used to compete. So, how about we get worked up about something that actually IS happening?
Sure, most people lock their doors when they leave the house. But that is because many people HAVE had their houses broken into. If NO-ONE had had their house ever broken into, don't you think that fewer people (if any) would bother locking it?
That's the situation... no-one apparently HAS had their custom data stolen and used. But you all want to worry about it. Isn't there more important things to worry about? Like your car being stolen, or your keyboard, or your health care drying up? You know, things that actually happen to real people...
Look, I can understand that a sound designer that wants to sell custom samples would like access to the system that some companies use to copy protect their work. And in this age of rampant piracy, that's perfectly reasonable. But that is a BUSINESS decision in response to a REAL, demonstrable need (sample piracy of commercial data is global). And Korg DO have a system where businesses that they choose to work with can copy protect their data.
But locking down an entire arranger to prevent your personal data being copied (rather than simply removing the stick and putting it in your pocket) is simple paranoia until someone can show it happening. So far, no-one has.
The simple expedient of securing your arranger and its data either in a locked case, or removing the data in the first place is all any of us except commercial sample or style developers need. TBH, let's be honest... If your data is worth that much to determined thieves, password protecting your HD isn't going to help much, is it? The OP needs to contact Korg and persuade them to partner him like they do Deebach etc. if his sounds are THAT good and he has a solid business plan to market them. And, if they aren't, what are the odds anyone WANTS to steal it..?
The irrational response to non-existent (or barely existent) threats has made our modern world the mess it is nowadays. We ignore things that actually DO threaten us (global warming, income inequality and the marginalization of working classes worldwide) to worry about stuff that never happens.
Until someone, somewhere actually DOES steal someone's custom samples from a Korg, and use them to either compete for the jobs you have now, or puts them on Rapidgator or some other 'sharing' sites for all to use for free, how about we worry about REAL stuff?
You know, I see quite a bit of irony in the idea of copy protected data. I know that sites are quite popular where people 'share' styles, one even posts here. Where is the concern about the security of style data? Where is the concern for the guy that writes great styles and watches them become public domain before he's made a decent income for his effort? Where's the outcry for protected data areas so style makers can sell you a style, and it's impossible for you to 'share' it?
It seems that everyone is concerned here that something of THEIRS might be stolen. But little thought to what they are doing by going to style 'sharing' sites or SMF 'sharing' sites, and doing the exact same thing to someone ELSE....
Let's be honest... styles and SMF's and karaoke MP3 backing tracks are being 'stolen' and 'shared' every day. But so far, not one single person has one single report of their own personal samples stolen and used to compete. So, how about we get worked up about something that actually IS happening?