Korg PA and Recording on Cubase

Varand · Post by **Varand** » Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:38 pm

Hi Gentlemen, I'm trying to record a few songs on Cubase and have ran into some issues. I'm running Cubase 7.5 and have downloaded the pa800 template from korgpa.com The recording takes place but it doesn't play it correctly meaning every thing sounds off, and the correct instruments are not playing. I have also been able to separate the tracks using the Disolve function. I think I'm missing something on the midi out part. I used the USB connection. If someone has done this before please help me, I tried searching for it and couldn't find stuff specific to the issue.

Thank you

ginol96 · Post by **ginol96** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:09 am

Problem are SYSEXE commands (setting for effects) . KORG not supports it. Nobody knows, what Sysexe commands use PA series.
Check out MIDI OUT settings on PA. Turn OFF all filters and in GLOBAL choose correct MIDI OUT template

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:38 pm

I never done this on Cubase yet, but I did on FL Studio.
1. USB connection is not best for this, try if you can use MIDI connection.
When you play style on Korg, midi channel is mapping different that Standard.
Style using 9-16 channel. When you using MIDI OUT you can specify on which channel you put which track.
System Exclusive is using by Korg, but this data is a customize messages create by manufacturers and is sending by Korg, but is not readable by DAW.
System Exclusive not holding setting for effects, Program change and Control Change sending parameters for effects.
Try download free program MIDIOX from http://www.midiox.com/
You going to see what data is sending.
The biggest problem is mapping channels, when you try read midi from Korg beside Style channels track you map others like Upper/Lower tracks, pads or even chord playing.
Template you got is only basic, design for basic style correction, you need customize it.
If you try make perfect template,....is possible but you never going to have exactly same as Korg, unless you going to use same Sounds generators.
Check in your manual section about MIDI Controllers, you see there available parameters which can go out and in.
Before you record on your DAW you need set tempo and Time Signature, I don't know if is possible to receive this from MIDI sending.
I never work with Cubase template yet, but if this is assign to MIDI Out Plugin, never going sound same, you may need later change plugin to similar you by KORG, many data record in DAW by default is not visible, but is all there.
If you record Guitar Tracks, all notes, data is complete different that others, velocity is using to assign Chord Shape not standard velocity of note.

Bottom line is is all possible, but if some point is pointless, believe me, I did try and now I like better dealing directly with instrument.

I do like sometime testing style using tracks recorded on DAW, but playing on Korg using MIDI IN, especially Guitar tracks, but recording I prefer audio record coming from KORG.

BillyHank · Post by **BillyHank** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:20 pm

Correction - Cubase definitely reads and send sysex.

Nemik · Post by **Nemik** » Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:29 pm

BillyHank wrote:Correction - Cubase definitely reads and send sysex.

Thx BillyHank , is good to know, frankly I'm pleasant surprise

Is good to be around all on forum, everyday you learn something.

ginol96 · Post by **ginol96** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:02 am

Cubase reads SYSEXE, but KOrg PA series doesn't read, or has big problems with them.
Are not USB MIDI and MIDI IN/OUT identical? It never occurred to me.
However, change effect ( for example reverb to EQ) you do not whithout sysexe message.
If you want to have good sound effects need to set the PA. After processing in Cubase song do import into PA Sequencer and effects set there.
Sysexe are big problem PA