Damper pedal not working for other timbres in Combi?

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:00 pm

SanderXpander wrote:I meant in the GE filter page.

That's what I meant too. I have to assume that instructions in the linked topic were followed in full.

pizzafilms · Post by **pizzafilms** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:55 pm

I just tried it again on a fresh Init Combi.

- Casio plugged into Kronos via USB
- Sustain pedal plugged into Kronos Damper pedal input
- Casio set to transmit on channel 16
- Timbre 1 set to German Grand and Timbre 16 set to a B3
- All other timbres turned off

- In KARMA - GE Setup/Key Zones
- - In GE Setup: A Run box checked off & Zone Btm & Top set to C-1
- - In MIDI I/O: A Input channel set to Gch and Output to 16

- In KARMA - MIDI Filter/CC Offset
- - Module A, everything off except Damper

With the front panel Karma button still off, the sustain pedal sustains both keyboards properly, BUT when I play the Kronos keyboard, I hear both the Grand Piano and the B3.

Turning on the Karma button has no effect.

Hmmm...

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:15 pm

Well, KARMA does need to be switched ON for this to work I believe. But risking redundancy here with apologies, is the Timbre Thru unchecked for Module A on the GE Setup page? It needs to be unchecked (by default, I think it's checked on an init combi). Because if you're hearing both timbres with KARMA switched OFF, then that would mean it is checked, which is not what you want.

pizzafilms · Post by **pizzafilms** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:15 pm

No apologies, I so appreciate your help!

So, yes, Timbre Thru was on.

I turned it off, and now the sustain pedal only works when Karma is on, but the Kronos keyboard still plays the other timbre when Karma is on.

Bakerman · Post by **Bakerman** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:33 am

What you're encountering happens when you uncheck "notes" at the Karma MIDI Filter page. I guess the assumption is if KARMA was running and you filtered its generated notes, you'd always want your own notes passed through. Typically you shouldn't have to disable anything there, although it's an easy way to disable pitch bend if the program allows it by default. Other things like Ribbon & JS +/- Y can be filtered there or at the per-timbre MIDI filter page. You don't have to limit the KARMA zone to C-1 for this either.

Try this, starting with an initialized combi. Turn KARMA on. Make these settings for Module A at the KARMA: GE Setup/Key Zones page.

In channel: global channel

Out channel: channel 16

Run and Thru Inside Zone: both disabled

The parameter simply called "thru" at this page doesn't matter while KARMA is on. Occasionally one setting or the other might be of use. With it on, you could switch KARMA off and have the organ triggered by the Kronos keys. With it off, you could disable the damper while the Casio remains the only way to play the timbre.

pizzafilms · Post by **pizzafilms** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:25 am

That worked exactly as I hoped!

Thank you so much!

HardSync · Post by **HardSync** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:32 pm

Bakerman wrote:What you're encountering happens when you uncheck "notes" at the Karma MIDI Filter page. I guess the assumption is if KARMA was running and you filtered its generated notes, you'd always want your own notes passed through.

Thanks for that, Bakerman. I didn't know that would happen (because I don't have a board to test on right now). Appreciate you jumping in with the fix.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:22 pm

Haha sorry for making it worse!
Thanks for clearing that up.