Exporting Korg smf and making style in cubase

[Korg_Vikram]

Hello friends,

I was just wondering if anyone can mention some steps on how to create a style in cubase for Korg pa and import that back in Korg as style. There is a video by Daniel on YouTube for the same but it's in Romanian language. I would really like to understand if we can export any existing style in smf format ( which is easy) and how to edit it in cubase and import back in Korg.

The procedure listed in Korg advance edit manual page 28-30 is not very clear.

Well I am trying the same and if I can get to it work (the procedure) I will definitely post a video tutorial for the same but I need your help guys.

I always believe in knowledge sharing and helping others. If there is anything anyone likes to know about styles that I have made, you can email me at y2vikram@yahoo.com or use this forum.

Thanks,

Vikram

[smstome]

Friend

This channel has few good tutorials.
They are in pro tools.

It will be very smilar in cubase too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpRz7wbAr4

[Korg_Vikram]

Hi,

Actually I've seen that video but there is no narration and nor it makes you understand how to cut a midi file and map the rights sounds for the style. I am looking forward to a very informative one.

Can anyone please compile it step by step?

Thanks

[smstome]

mapping sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al6KPYlo4Oo

[rikkisbears]

Hi ,
unfortunately I don't have cubase, but I have exported Korg styles as midifiles and edited them in a pc sequencer, then imported them back in.

It's also a good way of learning how to do your own.

Are you basically having problems with importing?exporting as a midifile??

Hello friends,

I was just wondering if anyone can mention some steps on how to create a style in cubase for Korg pa and import that back in Korg as style. There is a video by Daniel on YouTube for the same but it's in Romanian language. I would really like to understand if we can export any existing style in smf format ( which is easy) and how to edit it in cubase and import back in Korg.

The procedure listed in Korg advance edit manual page 28-30 is not very clear.

Well I am trying the same and if I can get to it work (the procedure) I will definitely post a video tutorial for the same but I need your help guys.

I always believe in knowledge sharing and helping others. If there is anything anyone likes to know about styles that I have made, you can email me at y2vikram@yahoo.com or use this forum.

Thanks,

Vikram

[pippuzzo]

Hi,

I learned creating a style ... starting from the end: I exported a finished factory style in SMF format to analyze it in my computer.
I found out the most important things to do and some mandatory steps to follow while creating a new one for a midifile:

1) delete less relevant tracks to fit the 8 tracks style format. This sometimes lead to decide if keep or not the percussion track
2) focus on intro/variation/ending sections to fit your target. This is an important step to have the correct style playability.
While doing this start placing markers according to Korg specs
3) adjust fills: even if it looks a minor issue it is still important to keep a musical flow while playing your song
4) flatten all chords to a single one (except for intro/ending1)
5) adjust in the Pa all the style settings (chord/key/NTT/tables) according to point 4
6) save the SMF in format 0 and import it using shift+execute
7) check in the Pa if everything works as espected and eventually fix troubles

You have to be patient for the first 2 or 3 styles, then you'll discover that is funny creating your own style, and things looking difficult will became logical.
After the first learning curve you will also discover how to improve things using different tables or guitar tracks for example.

Hope this help.

Cheers

[michagi]

Hi,

I learned creating a style ... starting from the end: I exported a finished factory style in SMF format to analyze it in my computer.
I found out the most important things to do and some mandatory steps to follow while creating a new one for a midifile:

1) delete less relevant tracks to fit the 8 tracks style format. This sometimes lead to decide if keep or not the percussion track
2) focus on intro/variation/ending sections to fit your target. This is an important step to have the correct style playability
3) adjust fills: even if it looks a minor issue it is still important to keep a musical flow while playing your song
4) flatten all chords to a single one (except for intro/ending1)
5) adjust in the Pa all the style settings (chord/key/NTT/tables) according to point 4
6) save the SMF in format 0 and import it using shift+execute
7) check in the Pa if everything works as espected and eventually fix troubles

Nice and brief set of instructions.
I would only add one more step after step 4:
4.1 Set markers for each style element according to description on p. 29 of Advanced Edit Manual.

Michal

[Sam CA]

Hi,

Actually I've seen that video but there is no narration and nor it makes you understand how to cut a midi file and map the rights sounds for the style. I am looking forward to a very informative one.

Can anyone please compile it step by step?

Thanks

Hi Korg-Vikram,
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but none of these tutorials that I made was meant to teach and spoonfeed people how to operate a DAW. If you can't be bothered with doing a little research on YOUR OWN for something as simple and basic as cutting a midi file, you're not gonna get that far.

My best advice: Export a factory style in midi format and import it in Cubase. Then study it, analyze it...etc

[rikkisbears]

Hi Sam,
it's been a while. Great to see you're still around.

[quote="Assyrianpianist"]

[Sam CA]

Hi Sam,
it's been a while. Great to see you're still around.

Hey Rikki,
yeah, it's been a while. Just been extremely busy. I don't visit the forums as often anymore.

[rikkisbears]

Hi Sam,
I haven't been around in the last few months either. Good to hear you're busy.

Hi Sam,
it's been a while. Great to see you're still around.

Hey Rikki,
yeah, it's been a while. Just been extremely busy. I don't visit the forums as often anymore.

[pippuzzo]

Hi,

Nice and brief set of instructions.
I would only add one more step after step 4:
4.1 Set markers for each style element according to description on p. 29 of Advanced Edit Manual.

Michal

You are right of course, but I added this to point 2 instead of 4.
It looks to me more convenient start fixing the markers while deciding intro/var/ending/fill. Having always the right markers in the right places helps a lot keeping full control over the style structure and speed up the workflow IMHO.

Consider also that sometimes good midifiles has already programmed markers (verse, chorus, intro, etc.), so sometimes it is a very easy task re-using them with a simple rename.

Hope this help.

Cheers

[michagi]

Hi,

I added this to point 2 instead of 4.
It looks to me more convenient start fixing the markers while deciding intro/var/ending/fill.

Of course setting markers in step 2 is a better choice. I just thought step 4 was the last moment to decide about markers unless you want to import style elements one by one.
Anyway, I suggest to add also the page number of the Advanced Edit Manual, sometimes it is very helpful for those who deal with it for their first time.

Cheers,

Michal.

[clausw]

@pippuzzo,

"4) flatten all chords to a single one (except for intro/ending1) "

It seems like a big job.

Did you say make for instance a C-major chord all the way except for intro an ending?

Rgds
Clausw

[pippuzzo]

... yes could be C major or any other chord. Just be sure that the chord you decided is declared in the track setting (in the main page - key/chord parameter - to be done for each track of each chord variation - I suggest you to use the copy function to avoid/reduce manual errors).

Yes, this it is the most tedious part of the job, but's not that terrible at the end. Some sofference ..... great satisfaction!

Cheers