In the german korg forum, there are rumors going round, that korg has stopped the development of the editor due to a low number of sales, especially in the US...
Is that true ?
No editor ?
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michelkeijzers
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I cannot imagine that ... they sold thousands of each model and although they are 'late' it was advertised including an editor.
Who exactly are those rumors from? Is it from Korg or someone just assuming something?
Who exactly are those rumors from? Is it from Korg or someone just assuming something?
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I think that this talk is pure bla bla.
If Korg would ever dare to abandon their flagship workstation customers in a way similar to Roland's reckless abanding of their Fantom G, they would go through a similar real heavy and long loss of reputation, and suffer from heavy consequences for all of their keyboard lines concerning sales figures all the way down, just like Roland suffers since then.
I think the opposite is true: Korg has just begun profiting from the impressive power pack they offer. And after overcoming the critical phases of early production and keybed development, they would have to be compeletly crazy, not to get their share from marketing the most advanced multipurpose synth concept on the market, being technical leader in the whole field for the moment and some time to come.
If they fail here, they would suffer much more heavily from the consequences than any short sighted cost cutting could ever bring them. The cost cutting dumb nuts at Korg Japan have already shown their incompetence with their view on keyboard, fan and data wheel parts of the Kronos, and should rather hide in shadows in shame, than continue their foolish incompetence in the music market in a way which is completely alien to the spirit of Mr. Tsatumoh Katoh. In fact they have reached no cost cutting, but a lot of additional costs, both by the need to replace parts and by completely unnessary weakening of the Kronos reputation, and resulting sales figures.
If Korg would ever dare to abandon their flagship workstation customers in a way similar to Roland's reckless abanding of their Fantom G, they would go through a similar real heavy and long loss of reputation, and suffer from heavy consequences for all of their keyboard lines concerning sales figures all the way down, just like Roland suffers since then.
I think the opposite is true: Korg has just begun profiting from the impressive power pack they offer. And after overcoming the critical phases of early production and keybed development, they would have to be compeletly crazy, not to get their share from marketing the most advanced multipurpose synth concept on the market, being technical leader in the whole field for the moment and some time to come.
If they fail here, they would suffer much more heavily from the consequences than any short sighted cost cutting could ever bring them. The cost cutting dumb nuts at Korg Japan have already shown their incompetence with their view on keyboard, fan and data wheel parts of the Kronos, and should rather hide in shadows in shame, than continue their foolish incompetence in the music market in a way which is completely alien to the spirit of Mr. Tsatumoh Katoh. In fact they have reached no cost cutting, but a lot of additional costs, both by the need to replace parts and by completely unnessary weakening of the Kronos reputation, and resulting sales figures.
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That's not Korg's style. Once they start putting effort into a project, they will declare it finished at some point and release it. They may not have every feature they ever dreamed of putting in there in the final release, but they will release it.
Also, they have an editor for the M50, M3, Radias, and every nano product. How could they NOT release an editor for their most powerful workstation to date?
Maybe if some people didn't make a federal case out of every little feature they wanted in the OS, bug report, and keybed issue, they could focus more time on the editor? You can only put out so many fires at once.
Bottom line: it's coming relatively soon. I'm VERY sure of that.
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Also, they have an editor for the M50, M3, Radias, and every nano product. How could they NOT release an editor for their most powerful workstation to date?
Maybe if some people didn't make a federal case out of every little feature they wanted in the OS, bug report, and keybed issue, they could focus more time on the editor? You can only put out so many fires at once.
Bottom line: it's coming relatively soon. I'm VERY sure of that.
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Re: No editor ?
Of course not. Pure rumor, probably from a hater.MRedZac wrote:In the german korg forum, there are rumors going round, that korg has stopped the development of the editor due to a low number of sales, especially in the US...
Is that true ?
The editor is STILL LISTED on the Korg USA Website:
"Editor software available soon as a free download."
If Korg was dropping the editor they would have removed that from the product description.
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Apparantly quite a lot, since it looks like it will take more than 12 months to deliver!Dniss wrote:Seriouly, how much man power do you need to create an editor?
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Well that's my point! There are prolly just a few people working on it, so chances are they will deliver.SeedyLee wrote:Apparantly quite a lot, since it looks like it will take more than 12 months to deliver!Dniss wrote:Seriouly, how much man power do you need to create an editor?
I doubt this app is taking a significant hit on the bottom line.
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Just discovered that the german Korg site still says tht the editor is available... great communicaton
Now what if we started another rumor? Korg has decided to include a free soundset as a bonus gift to registered users when the editor finally will ship. There's no truth in this rumor (so far), but wouldn't it be a nice idea
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Now what if we started another rumor? Korg has decided to include a free soundset as a bonus gift to registered users when the editor finally will ship. There's no truth in this rumor (so far), but wouldn't it be a nice idea
?The best idea would be, if I open a korg website and would be able to download the editor directly - just as it was advertised.Orri wrote:Just discovered that the german Korg site still says tht the editor is available... great communicaton
Now what if we started another rumor? Korg has decided to include a free soundset as a bonus gift to registered users when the editor finally will ship. There's no truth in this rumor (so far), but wouldn't it be a nice idea
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Can't you wait?
If the developer(s) of the Editor is still with the company then chances are very high that it will soon be available for download on Korg's support site. Otherwise it will take another year or two before it is released.
If the developer(s) of the Editor is still with the company then chances are very high that it will soon be available for download on Korg's support site. Otherwise it will take another year or two before it is released.
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The definition of "soon" is all relative.. and also appropriate to an important but non-critical development. Obviously the editor took a back burner in resource allocation to the new os and also the keybed related issues... but, with things more stable now i think "soon" is back on track..
fyi the Motif was having an arp editor released "soon", and that was back in summer 2010...and still waiting.
fyi the Motif was having an arp editor released "soon", and that was back in summer 2010...and still waiting.
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If the current Top-sellers TOP-10 for workstations at Thomann is any indication of how successful the KRONOS is, then the KRONOS in particular and KORG in general are doing very well:
1. KORG PRO KRONOS 88
2. KORG M50-61 MUSIC WORKSTATION
3. KORG PRO KRONOS 61
4. KORG PRO KRONOS 73
5. KURZWEIL PC3 K8
6. KORG M50-88
7. KURZWEIL PC3 K6
8. KORG M3-61 XPANDED WORKSTATION
9. YAMAHA MOX 6
10. YAMAHA MM6
Not bad, not bad at all.
1. KORG PRO KRONOS 88
2. KORG M50-61 MUSIC WORKSTATION
3. KORG PRO KRONOS 61
4. KORG PRO KRONOS 73
5. KURZWEIL PC3 K8
6. KORG M50-88
7. KURZWEIL PC3 K6
8. KORG M3-61 XPANDED WORKSTATION
9. YAMAHA MOX 6
10. YAMAHA MM6
Not bad, not bad at all.