Trouble assigning expression pedal, please help

robbieh · Post by **robbieh** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:14 am

Hi folks.

I just got my Triton pro and I love it. Play in a bluesband and would love to assign the leslie rotary effects and such to a Korg XVP-10 pedal. I searched the manuals but somehow, i can't find it. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Rob.

wolferl3.1 · Post by **wolferl3.1** » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:14 am

If you got your XVP-10 pedal, connect it to the ASSIGNABLE PEDAL jack at the back of you Triton.

Then select the function that will be controlled by your pedal on the Assign list beside.

emanuelsj · Post by **emanuelsj** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:13 pm

I also have a Korg Classic which I would like to use with a Hohner VP1 pedal. I'm pretty new into this so I'm not sure how to set it. I would also like use the foot pedal to toggle between rotary on/off effect. Is just that I get no response from it. The only effect I get is when I plug the pedal to the Damper rear jack (the notes keep playing even if I released the keys).

This is what I did till now: pressed Global button, then Menu button, P2: Controller on the touch screen. Here I modified Foot Pedal Assign value but no joy yet. Anyone can help me with that? The pedal is an important tool so it would be a pity not to use it.

Thank you, folks!
Emanuel

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:04 pm

emanuelsj wrote:I also have a Korg Classic which I would like to use with a Hohner VP1 pedal. I'm pretty new into this so I'm not sure how to set it. I would also like use the foot pedal to toggle between rotary on/off effect. Is just that I get no response from it. The only effect I get is when I plug the pedal to the Damper rear jack (the notes keep playing even if I released the keys).

That's because you are using the DAMPER jack.

emanuelsj wrote: This is what I did till now: pressed Global button, then Menu button, P2: Controller on the touch screen. Here I modified Foot Pedal Assign value but no joy yet. Anyone can help me with that? The pedal is an important tool so it would be a pity not to use it.

Thank you, folks!
Emanuel

You already said so, Foot Pedal ASSIGN. Use the ASSIGN jack, not the DAMPER jack.

emanuelsj · Post by **emanuelsj** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:21 pm

Actually I did tried all rear jacks: Pedal, Switch and Damper also. Then, with the pedal plugged into the pedal-jack, I tried to assign a function to it but no luck. Mocando - or anyone else, if you could exlpain me step by step what I need to do it would be just awesome.

Thank you!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:23 pm

if you are using a footswitch (on/off latching/momentary, preferably momentary) pedal, plug it into the assignable SW(itch) socket. If you have a foot pedal (variable, like a wahwah pedal or volume swell for exampl), connect it to the assignable pedal connection.

The damper socket is for 'sustain' pedal operation.

Leave the setting set to 'foot switch' or 'foot pedal' in global settings.

that means that when you press the pedal, it creates a modulation source inside the synth called 'foot pedal' or 'foot switch' (the actual names I think may be slightly different to this), but this source has to be connected to the modulation that you want it to operate for each program that you want to use it in. This is greatly advantageous because for example not all programs have the same effects or having the same result from the pedal may not be ideal for that sound.

So in your organ sounds, you should find a rotary speaker effect. There should be a 'Fast' or 'Slow' speed setting and next to that a place to select the AMS (Alternate Modulation Source) source. Select Assignable Foot Switch here, set it to latching here.

If you are using a variable pedal rather than a switch, you may want continuous control over the rotary speed. In this case, I believe there is a manual speed field named 'ManuSpd' on the triton series at least. Select the pedal as the source here.

emanuelsj · Post by **emanuelsj** » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:20 am

Good job, X-trade, I managed to use the pedal as a foot switch after reading your explanation. Thanks a lot, dude!

Stephen Glover · Post by **Stephen Glover** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:00 pm

Hi E-Man
I would like to piggy back off your thread and ask if you can walk me through how to get my expression pedal to control the volume of a timbre in my Combination?

I plugged the Expression pedal into the assignable jack. I went to the global settings and selected the 'Assignable pedal' to Master Volume, then to Volume, but was not successfull in getting the pedal to control the anything.

Either my rather cheap Zoom expression pedal doesn't work on my Triton Extreme (I tried a Boss FV 50L as well without success) or i am missing a step.

Can you help?

emanuelsj · Post by **emanuelsj** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:35 pm

Hi buddy,

Right now I don't have the keyboard with me but I will check that tonight, then i will let you know.

Cheers!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:37 pm

Stephen Glover wrote:Hi E-Man
I would like to piggy back off your thread and ask if you can walk me through how to get my expression pedal to control the volume of a timbre in my Combination?

I plugged the Expression pedal into the assignable jack. I went to the global settings and selected the 'Assignable pedal' to Master Volume, then to Volume, but was not successfull in getting the pedal to control the anything.

Either my rather cheap Zoom expression pedal doesn't work on my Triton Extreme (I tried a Boss FV 50L as well without success) or i am missing a step.

Can you help?

Did you use the 'assignable pedal' or 'assignable SW' (footswitch) connection? The 'pedal' connection is for a variable expression type pedal, whilst the other is for a simple on/off switch type pedal.

If you want it to affect a specific timbre, you should set up the pedal to transmit expression, then in combi mode use the MIDI Filter settings to set only that specific timbre to respond to the pedal. The same technique can be applied to get certain knobs to only affect certain timbres.

Stephen Glover · Post by **Stephen Glover** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:52 pm

Super Guru X, please will you detail how to accomplish your recommendation:- "then in combi mode use the MIDI Filter settings to set only that specific timbre to respond to the pedal."
I think that this may be the missing step, since i definitly used the 'assignable pedal connection'.

Do you know if all Expression pedals send a signal that the Triton can recognise?

Thanks for your assistance

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:57 pm

Which triton do you have? I don't have a Classic or Studio or Extreme so I don't know the exact buttons and screens to go to.

First you have to set the pedal to send Expression (CC11) in Global mode, and then use the 'write' button to save changes to global mode.

Stephen Glover · Post by **Stephen Glover** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:05 pm

I have the Extreme.

I did go to the global mode and assign the Foot pedal to 'Volume'

What i failed to do is use the MIDI filter settings to set the timber to respond. I assume it may be a set of tick boxes, so i will go home and give it a bash. Not too confident at this stage. A lingering feeling that the expression pedal is not compatible to the Triton remains.

Thanks again.

Synastikki · Post by **Synastikki** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:25 pm

remember that when using a expression pedal, the cable you use has to be a stereo type so it has a TRS-jack.

Stephen Glover · Post by **Stephen Glover** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:46 am

Synastikki the wise!

I now too have discovered the secret to making an expression (volume) pedal work on the Korg Triton Extreme

. For the expression pedal to work you need a STEREO cable. So simple but i never knew this and the technical guys at the music shops here didn't seem to think it would make a differrence. With my stereo cable in hand I am able to get the following:- Boss FV 50 L, a cheapy little Zoom pedal, Ernie Ball Jnr all to work perfectly. Simply connect the expression pedal to the keyboard using the stereo cable, go to the global mode screen and select the input device, select volume and there she goes. To control only selected timbres of a combi, you need to go to the Midi screen, MIDI4 screen allows you to select which timbers are effected by the pedal. So now you can swell in strings, pad, motion at your leisure. I am now also using a switch to tap in arpegiator tempo’s. Stoked!

Some pedals do not have an expression socket but can still be used to control the keyboard. How:- take a stereo cable and connect a stereo jack to the one side – this will be connected to the keyboard. Then solder two mono jacks to the other side of the stereo cable; connect the one jack to the input and the other to the output socket of the volume pedal to create the same feed back mechanism that will allow the pedal to send a signal to the keyboard. (You may have to try swop the two jacks around since the pos and neg does matter, so experiment a little)

Thank again guys for helping me with this.