Super sync lead of Pro53 on TEX: help

spinlud · Post by **spinlud** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:44 pm

hi all

i'm trying to emulate this sound: Super Sync Lead of Pro53 plugin. Great sound in my opinion! Maybe many of you know this sound and could help me, i am trying with double oscillator (mono-legato), triangle wave on first oscillator and pulse 40% on second oscillator. I need to put the oscillators in sync and make a modulation of the pitch on the second oscillator. Also need some portamento of course. I still failed to get that sound

, so any help/suggestion will be very appreciated !

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:49 pm

You can't sync the oscillators, because the triton is based on sampling synthesis. I don't believe there are any (or maybe very few) samples that support waveform sync.

The best solution would be to find or use a sample of a sync waveform. (just the wave cycle, without any portamento or filter effects, etc. ). I imagine you should be able to find some sampled sync sounds on the Extreme. There is definately one in the basic ROM (for example look at the Brian's Sync program).

Portamento settings are on the pitch edit page.

spinlud · Post by **spinlud** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:24 am

Hi, thanks for your reply!

So in triton extrem i can't sync oscillators, i got it. In the rom samples i found, in "single wave" directory, DWGS-Sync 1 wave. Maybe this could works? Where i can download Brian's sync programs to learn more about?

thank you in advance!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:44 am

What I meant was in the LeadSynth category you will find a lot of programs that have sync in the name. For example Brian's Sync, Syncro City, Fat Syn Sync, etc.

In fact there is one MS in the basic ROM called 'sync', number 206 in the Synth Waves (not the Single Waves), but by all means try the DWGS ones too and see which one sounds best.

Obviously then you'll probably only need one oscillator, because the sync waveform samples should have everything you need for a 2osc sync sound.

spinlud · Post by **spinlud** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:14 pm

aah okok i see. Yeah i found this "sync wave", maybe this is what i need to work on. But i have some difficulties...how i can create a sort of sync pitch envelope to emulate the effect of this sound? http://www.sendspace.com/file/nqg60r here a short mp3 of the sound i'm trying to get on keyboard. What do you think about? maybe i need also some modulation on filter(low pass?)?

thanks for any help!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:52 pm

Oh, I see.

Most of the built in sync-waves are downwards modulation only.

I think the only solution if you want to recreate it exactly would be to sample it (remove any filter, effects, etc, and sample just the result of the oscillator sync and modulation).

spinlud · Post by **spinlud** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:15 am

so you think i can't get a similar effect on tex?

and about of sampling, i know is possible to sample inside the keyboard, but i have some doubts.....how long have to be a sample? i have to sample each note or just for example the C4 and the keyboard will transpone?

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:49 am

Well, to capture the same modulation across the keys, you'd need to sample every octave or every fifth at least, possibly every minor third even.
If you didn't do this then the modulation would be twice as fast an octave up, and half the speed an octave down, which would sound quite odd! the tone would probably be different too.

The sample length would have to cover the entire range of the modulation sweep - so until it settles.

Then you'd have to go through each sample of each key you'd made and loop the final portion of the waveform so that you can hold the note after the sweep if you are playing that way, without reaching the end of the sample and it cutting off.

All of this is possible in the sampling mode. It is a time consuming process though.