opinions for sounds/sound creation

FigureofFiend · Post by **FigureofFiend** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:57 am

hey everybody

I'm really hoping to get a a number of opinions on this one, as it would be interesting to see the different approaches and ideas.

I've been using the tex for I want to say over a year now, and have only recently begun "creating" my own sounds. I have no moss board, and have simply been altering preset sounds (electric piano, vibraphone, warm pad, etc) using some effects (reverb, distortion) and on occasion the program editing menu to get interesting results. The user created ones I have made have been pretty mediocre and usually aren't loud or expressive enough, and although I've read through program edit section of the operation guide, either the interface or my own lack of experience gets in the way of valuable results.

I'll admit I am completely new to editing and creating sounds. Filter's and oscillators are foreign to me. I jumped into a workstation with only playing skill, and not workstation know-how unfortunately.

My question is what route would you suggest to somebody who is getting into sound creation?

-computer programs?
-racks?
-moss?
etc

For an idea on the sound style, my settings are live oriented. The style might be considered "post-rock...progressive rock", and what I enjoy calls for less flashy and more tone oriented. Less blips and wahs and more expressive pads, electric/synth pianos, and experimental/abrasive distortion settings.

Really looking forward to hearing back on this one...short answers, long answers --- all are greatly appreciated!!!

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:07 pm

I think software editors are the best way to get into the details of sound creation on any keyboard.

For the Triton Extreme, the TritonEditPro program looks like a good choice, although I haven't had a chance to try it yet on my TrEX. For my X50 and R3, I wouldn't think of editing without the Korg editor software. Going through pages and pages of menus with a little LCD display is like trying to drink a swimming pool through a straw, to me. I want nothing less that a full size computer LCD and a mouse to edit, and software can group and organize the parameters to reflect how they relate to each other.

The EXB-MOSS card is the natural upgrade for the TrEX, I just wish the prices were a bit more reasonable. I got a mint Z1 with 12 voice MOSS for $400, less than what the 6 voice card is usually selling for. If I could find the card for $300 or less, I'd buy it. Having the MOSS VA engine and physical models give many more options for creating sounds than the sampler engine alone. For your purposes, the MOSS is one of the best for pads and crazy experimental stuff.

FigureofFiend · Post by **FigureofFiend** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:01 am

thanks for the quick response

I completely agree on editing through the lcd...very time consuming and exhausting.

Although I know nothing about MOSS, from everything I read I assume it's a smart thing to try and snatch up because of it's value as a synth engine. Just wish I could find something on it that really explains it's functions in simple terms. I hear it's complicated to use though...and for somebody with no experience of any kind in the field, I wonder if spending the 400+ is worth it :/

computer software editing seems like a pretty good choice. I can't find any solid links on the program, but is TritonEditPro basically the page edit menu, and you import your program specs through, say, a compact flash card? I think they would be called pcg's...I know that is a program file...but I am a little fuzzy on what information is stored in a pcg.

What would be a software program where you could make your own multisamples from scratch? I wonder how difficult that would be...

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:39 pm

xmlguy wrote:TritonEditPro

do this thing work in realtime connection with TEX or it is just a PCG editor?

Thanks
Krzysiek

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:25 pm

It's a realtime editor, not just a PCG editor. It can save and load PCG too, from what it says. There is a demo version you can download. Give it a try.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Triton+EditPro

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:11 pm

Thanks for tip. I actually needed the information for comparison since I am writting a similar thing (SysEx based).

Best regards,
Krzysiek

Triton76 · Post by **Triton76** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:17 am

an easy way to get started creating new sounds in the Extreme is to just layer a couple of presets you like in Combi mode. Then edit effects/levels/Eq. You can get some great keyboard and pad sounds quickly.

FigureofFiend · Post by **FigureofFiend** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:36 pm

xmlguy - thats a pretty cool little program...I just tried out my friends m50 and there is the same type of program for that one...his came with the keyboard though. And...his was free and didn't cost ~$100

. Wish there was a free one i could use with the tex. Or a torrent I could find for it

.

Triton76 - when I first got the triton that was actually the first thing I did...and you are right, it did yield some cool results. I would say I am a little past that stage now, however.

I think I have decided to go the software synth route, using Native Instruments

and most likely going to pick this book up as well

http://www.amazon.com/Sound-Synthesis-S ... 0240514297

if I can figure out how to sample, in order to get the sounds from the computer to the keyboard for live purposes (without using the computer live, and only the keyboard)...I will be happy.

Does this sound like a sensible approach? As in sampling from these programs and etc? thanks again