automation

samallan · Post by **samallan** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:46 am

A simple question from a simple man

How do you edit or delete the automation track?

I know i can over write it but to would like to delete or edit it on occassions

thanking you in advance for any replies

Korg Oasys 88

Sydney Australia

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:42 pm

I suggest you record your automation into a separate track. In this separate Midi-track you will see all the automation events at once and can edit them easier.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:57 pm

There is no automation track per se. Much of the automation is recorded as Sysex to the MIDI track currently armed for recording. In the MIDI Event Editor you'll find that sysex data is displayed "anonymously", so you can delete stuff but you can't tell what you're actually deleting specifically. A useful but somewhat blunt instrument. You can also bulk delete sysex events from tracks. Editing the sysex data is not possible, period.

The Korg M3 OS update 2.0 addresses these shortcomings, and it is hoped that they will make it to the Oasys at some point.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:08 am

Daz wrote: The Korg M3 OS update 2.0 addresses these shortcomings, and it is hoped that they will make it to the Oasys at some point.

Something very needed for the OASYS sequencer nowdays, IMHO.

The M3 OS 2.0 Expanded update makes easier sysex editing, which is very useful for this kind of automation tasks, and some others.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:11 am

Korg did some great work in the M3 XP sequencer, going some way beyond what I'd expected to come from the feedback there had been for both the Oasys and M3. If that work was integrated into the Oasys, it would definitely make me entertain the idea of using the recording facilities far more. Lets hope that works out

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:22 am

Daz wrote:Korg did some great work in the M3 XP sequencer, going some way beyond what I'd expected to come from the feedback there had been for both the Oasys and M3. If that work was integrated into the Oasys, it would definitely make me entertain the idea of using the recording facilities far more. Lets hope that works out

I agree - and as it has been done for the M3 it is proven it could be done for the Oasys, too. As written before I still enjoy working with the Oasys sequencer and esp. with its sliders, knobs, buttons as a great hardware-interface. But with its current shortcommings on the graphical interface I will stick to Logic.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:38 pm

Charlie wrote:
I agree - and as it has been done for the M3 it is proven it could be done for the Oasys, too. As written before I still enjoy working with the Oasys sequencer and esp. with its sliders, knobs, buttons as a great hardware-interface. But with its current shortcommings on the graphical interface I will stick to Logic.

Seeing what Korg has be able to do with the M3, Imagine now the OASYS like this: (the same the M3 is now)

Imagine to be able to have the drag and drop functionality, in a screen the size of the OASYS, to make precise editings in a Track View Screen for a group of tracks, where you could move, copy , paste, and delete measures using touch-drag techniques, and having those same facilities also, to work within a piano roll environtment, to make precise MIDI editings.

The same for MIDI SysEx Editing, with SysEx events show up on screen using their parameter names, so you can clearly identify each them, to edit and have a precision editing.

its another panorama, isnt it?

Daz wrote: Korg did some great work in the M3 XP sequencer, going some way beyond what I'd expected to come from the feedback there had been for both the Oasys and M3. If that work was integrated into the Oasys, it would definitely make me entertain the idea of using the recording facilities far more. Lets hope that works out Cool

+1

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:14 pm

David & Daz,

I agree 100%. Getting more graphical user interaction would be a remarkable and welcomed move for sequencer operations on the O.

I don't know if it's ever been studied, but I would bet that there is more than a passing connection between being artistically inclined (in any art form) and having an enhanced ability to perform in that art form when graphical information is presented to the artist doing the work.

Ken

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:25 pm

Hi Ken,

I definitely would agree with that.

I also think that presenting information in a more graphical and less abstract form, helps to ensure that you stay in creative mode. Handling lists of numbers in the MIDI event editor for example is a sure fire way to switch from left to right brain operation (or is it vice versa, I can't remember which side does what).

The touch screen and GUI on the Oasys doesn't nearly used to it's full potential as something like the iDrum app on the iPhone. It would great to see something like that for programming drum patterns on the Oasys and even for arranging patterns into a song. The touch screen right now is just a replacement for a mouse, allowing only field selection. It's still a massive improvement on using cursor keys to navigate though

Daz.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:00 pm

Its a real pitty that the massive touch screen and GUI on the OASYS, the best ever, its not used to it's full potential yet, allowing field selections only, which is a real loss for a machine like this.

The doubt I have is if the OASYS screen could accomodate a drag & drop feature on it.
Has the M3 touch screen something the OASYS´ doesnt to prevent this kind of feature?