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Well, just downloaded the PDF manual, and on page 298 under "Using the MV-8800 in Multi Timbre Sampler Mode
It says:
You can use the MV-8800 as a multi-timbral sound module.
To do so, put the MV-8800 in “Multi Timbre Sampler mode.” In Multi Timbre Sampler mode, multiple channels
of MIDI performance data can be received from a connected external MIDI sequencer and used to play the
MV-8800’s instruments and audio phrases
Surely theres something there in the 8800 that allows you to do multi-track record
AnthonyB
It says:
You can use the MV-8800 as a multi-timbral sound module.
To do so, put the MV-8800 in “Multi Timbre Sampler mode.” In Multi Timbre Sampler mode, multiple channels
of MIDI performance data can be received from a connected external MIDI sequencer and used to play the
MV-8800’s instruments and audio phrases
Surely theres something there in the 8800 that allows you to do multi-track record
AnthonyB
KORG KRONOS 88-Korg D3200-Casio Privia PX-830BP-KAWAI RX-2 Grand Piano
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2
JOHN 3:16
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2
JOHN 3:16
The MV doesn't have a Multitrack record mode
Midi setup
Oasys Midi out>>MV Midi in
MV Midi out (A or B)>>Oasys Midi in(Turn Local control Off)
If you want to transfer old songs over save them as .Mid file format first then copy them over to your PC and then into the MV folders.
Midi setup
Oasys Midi out>>MV Midi in
MV Midi out (A or B)>>Oasys Midi in(Turn Local control Off)
If you want to transfer old songs over save them as .Mid file format first then copy them over to your PC and then into the MV folders.
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Mike Conway
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Multi-tracking midi is something I've done in Digital Performer
for 15 years and I'll gaurantee you the editing capabilities will surpass
anything … Is a computer and Sequencing software of your choice not
an option ? I would take a serious look at the available options…
Here's some to start…
Mac
Digital Performer
Cubase
Logic
PC/Windows
Cakewalk Sonar
HTH - Schweats
for 15 years and I'll gaurantee you the editing capabilities will surpass
anything … Is a computer and Sequencing software of your choice not
an option ? I would take a serious look at the available options…
Here's some to start…
Mac
Digital Performer
Cubase
Logic
PC/Windows
Cakewalk Sonar
HTH - Schweats
Just don't get you sina..The Oasys has more Limitations and Ommisions on its OS than the MV8800 Has Buttons.If you've been able to create songs on the Oasys/Triton the MV will seem like Childsplay.
The MV lacks M/R so what,if you actually took some time with it and realised how powerful this machine is for sequencing and how versatile it is you'd not even be bothered about the Lack of it Multi record ability,if you simply want to transfer over old sequences,then save them as Midi file format and Import them into the MV hard drive.
Spend some more time with it dude,you think that a Computer and all the bells and whistle will help you achieve your goals??I'm sure after a while you'd be complaining that it didn't come with an Infra red USB connection or something Pretty trivial??
I've used hardware and software since the Mid 80s.....nothing!!! I say nothing,even in todays technological breakthroughs will give you absolutely everything you need in one box,there will always be some ommision that would prevent you from doing something yet another machine will have it,But you live with those ommisions and work round them.
Your never gonna get to a comfortable system or even have any vision on where your music is going if you never give anything a chance.Anyone with a goal or determination will simply use the technology to their advantage,blaming it and letting it Psychologically take over you fulfilling a task because it has a little simple ommision of Not being able to Multirecord will only further highlight that issue by writing it off and looking somewhere else.
The fact that you say your starting to appreciatte the Oasys seq more now,actually shows you that your buying things for the sheer GAS,rather than necessity,your having issues even setting up the Midi side of things with the MV/Oasys which is pretty basic knowledge.
You just seem to be like a Rabbit in the headlights,dazzled by all these gear choices and not knowng exactly where or how to run.
You've managed on the Triton/Oasys for a while and if you can manipulate those easily enough the MV will blow your socks off in comparison to what you can do on it,this sequencer knocks spots of anything else,and if you can't get even get to a simple basic solution with the MV/Oasys,what happens when the Computer device starts giving you hiccups?
Give me the MV over a Computer setup anyday of the week,and I come from a Long history of using equipment both hard and software,and I'm most certainly not technically challenged in my Knowledge,I simply love the way the MV has given me back the Pleasure of songwriting and song construction,and also allowed me to still work in a Software drag and drop philosophy with the Mouse/VGA combo.
The MV lacks M/R so what,if you actually took some time with it and realised how powerful this machine is for sequencing and how versatile it is you'd not even be bothered about the Lack of it Multi record ability,if you simply want to transfer over old sequences,then save them as Midi file format and Import them into the MV hard drive.
Spend some more time with it dude,you think that a Computer and all the bells and whistle will help you achieve your goals??I'm sure after a while you'd be complaining that it didn't come with an Infra red USB connection or something Pretty trivial??
I've used hardware and software since the Mid 80s.....nothing!!! I say nothing,even in todays technological breakthroughs will give you absolutely everything you need in one box,there will always be some ommision that would prevent you from doing something yet another machine will have it,But you live with those ommisions and work round them.
Your never gonna get to a comfortable system or even have any vision on where your music is going if you never give anything a chance.Anyone with a goal or determination will simply use the technology to their advantage,blaming it and letting it Psychologically take over you fulfilling a task because it has a little simple ommision of Not being able to Multirecord will only further highlight that issue by writing it off and looking somewhere else.
The fact that you say your starting to appreciatte the Oasys seq more now,actually shows you that your buying things for the sheer GAS,rather than necessity,your having issues even setting up the Midi side of things with the MV/Oasys which is pretty basic knowledge.
You just seem to be like a Rabbit in the headlights,dazzled by all these gear choices and not knowng exactly where or how to run.
You've managed on the Triton/Oasys for a while and if you can manipulate those easily enough the MV will blow your socks off in comparison to what you can do on it,this sequencer knocks spots of anything else,and if you can't get even get to a simple basic solution with the MV/Oasys,what happens when the Computer device starts giving you hiccups?
Give me the MV over a Computer setup anyday of the week,and I come from a Long history of using equipment both hard and software,and I'm most certainly not technically challenged in my Knowledge,I simply love the way the MV has given me back the Pleasure of songwriting and song construction,and also allowed me to still work in a Software drag and drop philosophy with the Mouse/VGA combo.
Calm down??Nobody's getting aggrivated here,Just merely saying give it some time before you make a judgement based on one simple ommision.
How come you decided to Hire the services of someone??If you managed to write songs on the Triton or Oasys you should take to the MV easily enough,to me there isn't really a Learning curve at all,The OS seems one of the most Logical Sequencer Platforms ever made,and The manuals are clearly written with good Guidance.Although I haven't really read them or had the need to delve into them deep,there still laid out well with good step by step ops.
Give it a week or two you'll be flying round it.
How come you decided to Hire the services of someone??If you managed to write songs on the Triton or Oasys you should take to the MV easily enough,to me there isn't really a Learning curve at all,The OS seems one of the most Logical Sequencer Platforms ever made,and The manuals are clearly written with good Guidance.Although I haven't really read them or had the need to delve into them deep,there still laid out well with good step by step ops.
Give it a week or two you'll be flying round it.
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I had an MV8800 for a couple months but let it go as I found the recording paradigm very non-intuitive and the UI not very ergonomic.
It would be nice to have an intuitive, powerful hardware sequencer out there but I know there's not one thats a perfect fit for everybody.
It would be nice to have an intuitive, powerful hardware sequencer out there but I know there's not one thats a perfect fit for everybody.
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Each to his own.Carbon111 wrote:I had an MV8800 for a couple months but let it go as I found the recording paradigm very non-intuitive and the UI not very ergonomic.
It would be nice to have an intuitive, powerful hardware sequencer out there but I know there's not one thats a perfect fit for everybody.
For me I've used a lot of hardware seq's like the MPC60 through to the 3000 and the Roland MC50 and a few other devices that were standalone including every possible Korg Workstation since the M1,I found that they all had strengths/weaknesses,the large factor on using the Korgs especially the Trinity and Triton and Now Oasys was the IFX count internally and touchscreen,coupled with the Sounds,you wouldn't get that sort of ability in a standalone machine without some outboard intervention so you always have to compromise or strike a balance,Since those days I have pined for a decent Standalone machine or at least a Workstation that had this type of seq from Korg.
Sorry to hear you didn't get on with it,which is a shame cause its been a Joy to use for me.I suppose it depends on what your used to and where your coming from.The only criticism I have for it,it should have another Midi In(2)and 4 Midi outs as standard sockets,that would have been the total Dream machine for me.I could have hooked up all my studio from it.It does control all the studio gear but via a Midi patchbay,ideally I would have liked to not use different Midi configurations,ok it's no hassle to assign the Midi ports via the Patchbay as everything is Hooked up to the one patchbay,but would like to have those Mulitple Outs so it was directly utilised rather than via the P/bay
This is the Midi Patchbay I use,I have 2 of them(Have 16 Midi ins and 16 Midi outs in total) which all my studio is hooked up to,but I only use one for the MV,and all the mains synths are "Thru'd" via the one patchbay,rather than daisy chaining them each synth has its own Midi output,so I don't suffer any timing issues,that would be evident using a large daisy chain system(Midi in>>Thru.>>Midi In etc)I need to configure certain setups dependant on what synths I use,so I keep everything plugged into the Patchbay and just alternate between the Patchbay cofigurations in memory
I had this model because Majority of Units only really work via USB,or didn't have enough ins or outs,the 8X8 is superb because it works via the PSU in standalone mode too,
I do use the Laptop for editing the Patchbay setups,via the USB conncetion as thats the only way you can edit them via the software,it holds 8 program setups in Memory,you can configure any input to any output easily enough which should be more than enough.
M-Audio(Used to be called Midiman)Midisport 8x8
I think they have discontinued the 8X8 model,the newer model was silver and black,when I got the second one I tried to order the Silve black model and was told it had been discontinued,Luckily I managed to a second Mark 1 (Yellow/Blue)off ebay,for a bargain price.
There are a couple of older Midi patchbays ,Like the Roland A880 or the Akai ME80 but not sure of there actual In and out capacities.
A newer model I also looked at is the Edirol UM880
The Motu Model you are looking at getting needs USB powering,so are you planning on utilising it via your Computer??if your looking at running it in a hardware cofiguration only(Standalone) I would check out its ability to do this first,or you may have to use it via the Computer all the time,if it works anything like the Midisport does via USB that means that all the cofigurational ability will have to go via the Computer,and you'll maybe have to use a software sequencer to assign the inputs to different outs on the Motu,effectivly everything would go via the Software sequencer first,
Make sure it has standalone ability first or you'll be stuck with routing it via the Computer all the time.
I had this model because Majority of Units only really work via USB,or didn't have enough ins or outs,the 8X8 is superb because it works via the PSU in standalone mode too,
I do use the Laptop for editing the Patchbay setups,via the USB conncetion as thats the only way you can edit them via the software,it holds 8 program setups in Memory,you can configure any input to any output easily enough which should be more than enough.
M-Audio(Used to be called Midiman)Midisport 8x8
I think they have discontinued the 8X8 model,the newer model was silver and black,when I got the second one I tried to order the Silve black model and was told it had been discontinued,Luckily I managed to a second Mark 1 (Yellow/Blue)off ebay,for a bargain price.
There are a couple of older Midi patchbays ,Like the Roland A880 or the Akai ME80 but not sure of there actual In and out capacities.
A newer model I also looked at is the Edirol UM880
The Motu Model you are looking at getting needs USB powering,so are you planning on utilising it via your Computer??if your looking at running it in a hardware cofiguration only(Standalone) I would check out its ability to do this first,or you may have to use it via the Computer all the time,if it works anything like the Midisport does via USB that means that all the cofigurational ability will have to go via the Computer,and you'll maybe have to use a software sequencer to assign the inputs to different outs on the Motu,effectivly everything would go via the Software sequencer first,
Make sure it has standalone ability first or you'll be stuck with routing it via the Computer all the time.