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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:29 am    Post subject: Adding a Sub woofer to your Monitors ( for Kronos) Reply with quote

In addition to my Event 8 Studio monitors I have a 12" Cervin Vega powered sub.

I use the Kronos 1/2 audio out to the sub.

I am able to reduce the low frequency on my Event 8's, since the sub can easily handle bass and sub bass.

Since this speaker combination sounds nice and full, thought I would suggest it here.

anyone else using a sub to bring out the best in their Kronos ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Adding a Sub woofer to your Monitors ( for the Kronos) Reply with quote

No, but definitely thinking about it... Would you mind commenting on what you think a subwoofer has added to your setup? (Obviously more bass, but more specifically for example, how it has changed the way your most common patches sound to you, etc.)

Would you mind giving your opinion about the JBL LSR310S?

What specifics should I be looking for in a subwoofer.

Here are a couple of links:

http://jblpro.com/www/news/news-detail/2014/01/22/harman-s-jbl-professional-lsr310s-powered-studio-subwoofer-with-xlf-rounds-out-winning-3-series-studio-monitor-line

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-LSR310S-Channel-Studio-Subwoofer/dp/B00I08RT3U

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, I've got my Kurzweil (and some other devices) plugged into an extra home threater receiver I have. It's 7.1 and I've actually got two little subs set up on it. I just don't use the front center channel, as it seems to throw the audio balance out of kilter. Everything goes into a mixer before going into the receiver and sounds really nice.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Adding a Sub woofer to your Monitors ( for the Kronos) Reply with quote

Beeman wrote:
No, but definitely thinking about it... Would you mind commenting on what you think a subwoofer has added to your setup? (Obviously more bass, but more specifically for example, how it has changed the way your most common patches sound to you, etc.)

Would you mind giving your opinion about the JBL LSR310S?

What specifics should I be looking for in a subwoofer.

Here are a couple of links:

http://jblpro.com/www/news/news-detail/2014/01/22/harman-s-jbl-professional-lsr310s-powered-studio-subwoofer-with-xlf-rounds-out-winning-3-series-studio-monitor-line

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-LSR310S-Channel-Studio-Subwoofer/dp/B00I08RT3U

Thanks,

Beeman


thats an expensive sub IMO. its problaby going to do a great job. Is this for your home studio ?

my Cervin Vega was cheap- $250 but I have had it over 10 yrs.

I don't have experience trying out subs so I am not going to be of much help.

What I like about a sub is that it takes the ' load ' off my events. Maybe this is mostly a perception, I think my Events ( which have LF and HF controls) can better represent the mid to high range .

Bass , esp the lower end and sub comes to life on my Kronos . with combis, I have tinkered more with the bass in the mix due to the sub.

But overall , I really like the sound improvement with a sub for the Kronos.

Studio monitors are very subjective and there are so many good ones. Its easy to spend a lot of money on them. I might be wrong( always exceptions), but once you spend over $1000 for studio monitors, you should get exceptional quality.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is part of my home studio, but yes I also have a 2.1 kind of setup with my Blue Sky monitors.

http://abluesky.com/products/prodesk-2-1/

Brand new they were quite expensive but I managed to snag an amazing deal on them. I don't regret it at all, since they're one of the cleanest sounding monitors I've heard in a while.

Not the loudest, but definitely some of the more precise...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a Behringer sub that weighs about 70 lbs and is very powerful - so much so that I have to turn it way down. The room is 16 x 14 feet.

Cost $220 including shipping.

I do not gig so it stays where it is.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC- I have the original Mackie HR824's w/ the HRS120 sub. Mackie doesn't make this sub anymore (or the HRS150). Having the adjustable crossover transfers some of the low-end work from the 824's to the sub and works sublime. I cannot stress enough what a joy the Kronos is in this setup! *VERY* warm with a HUGE sound!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ksynth wrote:
I use a Behringer sub that weighs about 70 lbs and is very powerful - so much so that I have to turn it way down. The room is 16 x 14 feet.

Cost $220 including shipping.

I do not gig so it stays where it is.


same here. my cervin vega can shake the town if i turn it up. i just nudge the dial slightly and its good enough for my 13 x 13 room. wife hates it Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timbukktwo wrote:
GregC- I have the original Mackie HR824's w/ the HRS120 sub. Mackie doesn't make this sub anymore (or the HRS150). Having the adjustable crossover transfers some of the low-end work from the 824's to the sub and works sublime. I cannot stress enough what a joy the Kronos is in this setup! *VERY* warm with a HUGE sound!!


very nice setup ! for that sound, you said it best !
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! Yeah, when certain products you know are good (i.e.- HRS120/150), it makes you wonder why they stopped making them, though. I also have the Korg MR-1000 which is a most wonderful product as well, and Korg isn't making any of the DSD units any longer (except, maybe the external usb DAC?). Just like Starbucks not any longer offering a great-tasting basic mint flavored syrup they used to have, which was one of (my) personal favorites, in favor to peppermint year 'round being the new flavor which I thought would be something only offered during Christmas time. Though I can understand why, I still scratch my head sometimes as to why great products have to go by the wayside! Too bad! I'm glad I grabbed them when I did! When adding a sub to the monitoring, I feel the sound is much more complete, but it definitely depends on individual need for sure. For me, even though the 824's already go quite low, adjusting the crossover properly allows the 824's to focus a bit more with the high/mid low-mid all the while giving more of the grunt work to the sub. This helps to give way for a more clear, tight, and balanced sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hah! if you want a subwoofer that will rock your room, try out this puppy -> http://www.earthquakesound.com/index.php/en/browse-products/item/supernova-mkv-15piano
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch!
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Rich Z wrote:
Hah! if you want a subwoofer that will rock your room, try out this puppy -> http://www.earthquakesound.com/index.php/en/browse-products/item/supernova-mkv-15piano


my neighbor has this in the cab of his truck Wink and a power generator
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Yeah, the first time I cranked it up it actually, and SERIOUSLY, blurred my vision. Very odd feeling, to say the least.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: Adding a Sub woofer to your Monitors ( for the Kronos) Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
Beeman wrote:
No, but definitely thinking about it... Would you mind commenting on what you think a subwoofer has added to your setup? (Obviously more bass, but more specifically for example, how it has changed the way your most common patches sound to you, etc.)

Would you mind giving your opinion about the JBL LSR310S?

What specifics should I be looking for in a subwoofer.

Here are a couple of links:

http://jblpro.com/www/news/news-detail/2014/01/22/harman-s-jbl-professional-lsr310s-powered-studio-subwoofer-with-xlf-rounds-out-winning-3-series-studio-monitor-line

http://www.amazon.com/JBL-LSR310S-Channel-Studio-Subwoofer/dp/B00I08RT3U

Thanks,

Beeman


thats an expensive sub IMO. its problaby going to do a great job. Is this for your home studio ?

my Cervin Vega was cheap- $250 but I have had it over 10 yrs.

I don't have experience trying out subs so I am not going to be of much help.

What I like about a sub is that it takes the ' load ' off my events. Maybe this is mostly a perception, I think my Events ( which have LF and HF controls) can better represent the mid to high range .

Bass , esp the lower end and sub comes to life on my Kronos . with combis, I have tinkered more with the bass in the mix due to the sub.

But overall , I really like the sound improvement with a sub for the Kronos.

Studio monitors are very subjective and there are so many good ones. Its easy to spend a lot of money on them. I might be wrong( always exceptions), but once you spend over $1000 for studio monitors, you should get exceptional quality.


GregC,

Thanks for your answer and explanation. Yes, (the subwoofer) is for my home studio and I thought it was a bit on the expensive side too, but perhaps worth it.

I just purchased JBL studio monitors that are in the same product line as this subwoofer. I have been very pleased with the monitors and they have a great range with more than ample bass. However, to your comment, I think I can tell how a subwoofer will help "round out" or complete the sound.

Thank you!
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