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[Roadman]

I'm struggling a bit to get my head around the effects in a Kronos, been a roland and yamaha user until recently - can anyone point to any threads or tutorials in this area? Adding insert and master effects to combinations and programmes is what I need.

Any help be great

[burningbusch]

What you could be missing is the how the Kronos routes the signal to the effects.

Look at a Program that doesn't have effects assigned or an INIT PROGRAM.

Go to IFX Tab and the ROUTING
Towards the bottom left you'll see ALL OSCx to:
The default is L/R, change this to IFX1. You should see a blue line at the top showing routing.
Go to the INSERT FX tab.
At the top click on the OFF button for IFX1 and turn it ON.
Select the area next to the ON/OFF button that says 000: No Effect.
Use the INC/DEC or Dial to move through the various effects. You can play while you're scrolling through them to hear how they affect the sound.

Notice the CHAIN column. If you click on the chain button in the IFX1 row, routing now goes to IFX2. You can now repeat the above for IFX2. You can continue in this manner for up to 12 insert FX.

The IFX1-12 Tab allows you to set parameters for each of the insert effects.

The MFX/TFX Tab allows to master sends and two master insert effects. This area is commonly used to apply reverb and/or overall compressor/limiter.

Busch.
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[psionic311]

Nice explanation, Busch.

Roadman -- I also missed it at first, but when you are on the page where you can edit the individual parameters of an effect to your liking, take a look in the upper right. There you can choose from some useful FX presets.

I myself am still trying to figure out how the drum kit FX works.

[Derek Cook]

[SanderXpander]

Drumkits are tricky. You can route a drumkit program to the IFX like regular programs, but then you will get the FX on the entire kit, instead of e.g. just a compressor on the snare. If you want to split the drumkit pieces to use FX on individual drums or sets of drums, you need to set up that routing in the global/drumkit page. Note that this will affect all drumkit programs that use the drumkit you edit in global (the same way that program edits affect all combis), so if you want to experiment or significantly change kits, save to a user location and/or backup your PCG.

[jeremykeys]

For fun I once split the drum kit up so that I had each part on a different midi track so I could have control over the volumes of different drums and cymbals. I also had different IFX on different things.

If I have time today, I am going to set up a drum kit doing just that. I like to use the drum loops and I'm recording into Cubase so I'm hoping to have individual tracks in Cubase for each drum.

I'm using the Wild Rock Kit as a starting point.
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[psionic311]

[QuiRobinez]

[psionic311]

Thanks Qui. I did go to F-119 and found the Funk Drum Kit.

It had 4 IFX routings set up, no effect for each one. I changed IFX one to something obvious, a multi-tap delay. However, only about an octave of the drums have the delay effect, the rest are dry.

I saved it as is, then went back to the Combi. The drums do not have the delay effect anywhere. I'm going to pursue this at a different time.

[SanderXpander]

Drumkit programs use a drumkit as oscillator. Look in the drumkit program on the oscillator/basic page to find which one.
In global/drumkit you can edit that drumkit oscillator, and in it is contained the routing for all the IFX. Not the actual FX, mind, but the way the different drums are routed to IFX1 through 12.

So when you assigned a delay effect in the drumkit program, only the keys that were routed to the delay in that drumkit oscillator responded.
Hope that makes sense. To recap:

Edit the routing of which key goes to which IFX slot in the global/drumkit page.
Make sure there is a drumkit program using your edited drumkit oscillator. In program or combi mode, assign the IFX however needed. Note that in program or combi mode you can send a drumkit to an IFX slot or main L/R or select "drumkit" mode: this last one is the custom routing you created in global.

[QuiRobinez]

[Roadman]

Thanks for all the responses, very useful, it is just a process, will get there.
Couple if quick questions -

1) Master effect send 1 and 2 - where is this set for each Timbre within a combi? Eg if I want reverb set at varying levels across differing timbres using the master effects?

2)Are the effects within programmes that you choose to put into a combi automatically copied over with the programme? If not, how do you make this happen, or not, depending on what you require?

Any help most welcome

[SanderXpander]

Cool, didn't know about the 'standard' routing, I never use drumkits.

[QuiRobinez]

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