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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: What's Stephen Kay doing? |
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Seems he is working on a big project...
Which makes me wondering, is it a Korg project or a Yamaha project? |
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EJ2 Approved Merchant
Joined: 13 May 2002 Posts: 2292 Location: Port Rowan, Ontario, Canada
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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Bachus wrote: | Seems he is working on a big project...
Which makes me wondering, is it a Korg project or a Yamaha project? |
Well, I don't know why you have the impression that I'm working on a "big" project...
But, it's no "big secret" what I'm working on right now, so I'll tell you:
1) A new KARMA-fied Combis sound set for the Kronos (and eventually OASYS, and hopefully M3 and KARMA M50 Software), named "Catalyst Vol. 2", which is a collaboration between myself and EJ2, as in Catalyst Vol. 1.
2) A new version of KARMA Motif Software (3.2) that adds support for the Yamaha S70/S90 XS, and a few new features.
3) The first new XPansion Set of KARMA Performances for KARMA Motif software.
Those are the 3 main things occupying me at the moment.
- StePHen _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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StephenKay wrote: | Bachus wrote: | Seems he is working on a big project...
Which makes me wondering, is it a Korg project or a Yamaha project? |
Well, I don't know why you have the impression that I'm working on a "big" project...
But, it's no "big secret" what I'm working on right now, so I'll tell you:
1) A new KARMA-fied Combis sound set for the Kronos (and eventually OASYS, and hopefully M3 and KARMA M50 Software), named "Catalyst Vol. 2", which is a collaboration between myself and EJ2, as in Catalyst 1.
2) A new version of KARMA Motif Software (3.2) that adds support for the Yamaha S70/S90 XS.
3) The first new XPansion Set of KARMA Performances for KARMA Motif software.
Those are the 3 main things occupying me at the moment.
- StePHen |
Well, since we havent seen any announcements of new stuff in the last 8 months, i guessed you where working on something big...
I just combined that with the Kronos and the Motif being 4 years old each, and my expectations for an update to each of them at this comming nAMM
Good to hear you are quite busy with that stuff... are you sure the Motif 3.2 will not work on the upcomming Yamaha workstation too? |
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Crystalmsc Full Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 239 Location: Synth Garden
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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StephenKay wrote: | But, it's no "big secret" what I'm working on right now, so I'll tell you |
Stephen, since Karma was made using Max and now Korg has a closer collaboration with Ableton, any plan for the Max for Live version..or may be a cool M4L device from KarmaLab? _________________ Korg: Wavedrum/Mini/Global, MS-20m, Volca Beats/Bass/Key, Trinity Pro, Karma + Moss Board, 01R/W, Wavestation/SR/EX, microKORG XL, Kaossilator Pro, iKaossilator, Kaoss Pad Quad, Monotribe, Monotron/duo/delay, DS-10, Korg Collection V2, Korg Gadget, microKEY25
Station: Ableton Live 10 Suite, Obscurium, Push 2, Ultranova
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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Crystalmsc wrote: | StephenKay wrote: | But, it's no "big secret" what I'm working on right now, so I'll tell you |
Stephen, since Karma was made using Max and now Korg has a closer collaboration with Ableton, any plan for the Max for Live version..or may be a cool M4L device from KarmaLab? |
Okay thats news for me....
How is Korg working together with ableton? |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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Crystalmsc wrote: | Stephen, since Karma was made using Max and now Korg has a closer collaboration with Ableton, any plan for the Max for Live version..or may be a cool M4L device from KarmaLab? |
An extremely early version of KARMA was built in Max - this was back in 1994 when I started on KARMA. Later it was moved to C/C++ and its own application shell. There is no relationship between KARMA and Max now, nor has there been, for many many years. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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Kevin Nolan Approved Merchant
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 2524 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Stephen - what sort of effort has gone into the creation / characterisation of the GE's across the various versions you're released?
The breath of musical genres / styles is nothing short of breath-taking.
Having owned Karma since the Korg Karma and OASYS, and still only scratching the surface as a user, I cannot comprehend the depth of knowledge you must have regarding what characterises different styles and genres.
And finally - how do you keep up with the latest styles? Where do you find what rhythms, instruments, accents, syncopations character the plethora of variations across the hundreds of dance genres you cover?
It'd be incredibly interesting - and indeed useful to end users - to read about the "musical dimension" to Karma, to understand your origins and sources, musically for Karma.
In the words of Ray's father in "Everybody Loves Raymond" in the episode where they 'help' Robert prepare his wedding invitations - "You're like a genius!"
All joking aside, I've just recently been contemplating the breath and depth of the GEs on the OASYS, and its mind-blowing! It's be interesting to read a little about how the 'musical content' in Karma comes about. |
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Crystalmsc Full Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 239 Location: Synth Garden
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Whats Steven Kay doing? |
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StephenKay wrote: | An extremely early version of KARMA was built in Max - this was back in 1994 when I started on KARMA. Later it was moved to C/C++ and its own application shell. There is no relationship between KARMA and Max now, nor has there been, for many many years. |
Thank you for the information, really appreciated.
Bachus wrote: | Korg working together with ableton |
Korg gadget, ikaossilator and new elecribe are able to export to .als _________________ Korg: Wavedrum/Mini/Global, MS-20m, Volca Beats/Bass/Key, Trinity Pro, Karma + Moss Board, 01R/W, Wavestation/SR/EX, microKORG XL, Kaossilator Pro, iKaossilator, Kaoss Pad Quad, Monotribe, Monotron/duo/delay, DS-10, Korg Collection V2, Korg Gadget, microKEY25
Station: Ableton Live 10 Suite, Obscurium, Push 2, Ultranova
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worth Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1092
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Dear Stephen
The arranger keyboard world is crying out for your technology and creative flair to bring new styles that can evolve in real time mimicking what real musicians do as they jam . It seems crazy that karma in a workstation is such a forced fit and at best has had a luke warm reception compared to the natural progression karma to arranger styles would be . Literally karma in arranger styles would change the game and you would almostcertainly create the next generation of workstation arrangers for the next 5-10 years . What are you wAiting for ? |
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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worth wrote: | Dear Stephen
The arranger keyboard world is crying out for your technology and creative flair to bring new styles that can evolve in real time mimicking what real musicians do as they jam . It seems crazy that karma in a workstation is such a forced fit and at best has had a luke warm reception compared to the natural progression karma to arranger styles would be . Literally karma in arranger styles would change the game and you would almostcertainly create the next generation of workstation arrangers for the next 5-10 years . What are you wAiting for ? |
+100 !!! _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3126
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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worth wrote: | Dear Stephen
The arranger keyboard world is crying out for your technology and creative flair to bring new styles that can evolve in real time mimicking what real musicians do as they jam . It seems crazy that karma in a workstation is such a forced fit and at best has had a luke warm reception compared to the natural progression karma to arranger styles would be . Literally karma in arranger styles would change the game and you would almostcertainly create the next generation of workstation arrangers for the next 5-10 years . What are you wAiting for ? |
karma working in addition to arranger tracks is in my opinion what can add the diversity and livelyhood to arrangers that can pull them to the next level...
But... For most arranger players, all comtent should be delivered...
If you combine Karma and arranger tracks with a cliplauncher like ableton, ... Allowing all clips to follow either real time played chords... Or a chordsequenced track... That might put digital music on the next level. |
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SanderXpander Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mean to speak for him, but I'm pretty sure Stephen has said that this has been a long time aim for him and he plans to put it in KARMA 3.0, whenever that may arrive. |
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Bachus Platinum Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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worth wrote: | Dear Stephen
The arranger keyboard world is crying out for your technology and creative flair to bring new styles that can evolve in real time mimicking what real musicians do as they jam . It seems crazy that karma in a workstation is such a forced fit and at best has had a luke warm reception compared to the natural progression karma to arranger styles would be . Literally karma in arranger styles would change the game and you would almostcertainly create the next generation of workstation arrangers for the next 5-10 years . What are you wAiting for ? |
karma working in addition to arranger tracks is in my opinion what can add the diversity and livelyhood to arrangers that can pull them to the next level...
But... For most arranger players, all comtent should be delivered...
If you combine Karma and arranger tracks with a cliplauncher like ableton, ... Allowing all clips to follow either real time played chords... Or a chordsequenced track... That might put digital music on the next level. |
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Ojustaboo Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Jul 2011 Posts: 1154 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Would a PC VST style (or stand alone) Karma be possible so that we could use it with whatever synth/sw we wanted? |
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