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rs.felicio Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Dec 2011 Posts: 306 Location: São Paulo - Brasil
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: Any plan to add new User Banks? |
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Hello Guys (Especially for Korg).
After version 2.0, our options to create or buy new progs and combis (free or not) have greatly increased. So, there are any plans to add new User Banks (Progs and Combis)?
On this subject, just one simple suggestion...
I think that would be important and really a great differential if we could (as a Kronos users) get some information about the main plans for future SOs.
I work for a software company and often we analyze the "Wish List + improvements and reported bugs" and we publish to our users a "road map"..... just plans, no promises, no dates, no confidential information or related to market intelligence
Just a way to say to the users:
1 - We hear you!!
2 - The future for our product should be ....
3 - Keep loyal to our brand and our product...
I know that in some moments this process it can create speculation, but otherwise, think that would be really great for us and for the new "customers".
So, just a humble opinion. |
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apex Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 2340
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Any plan to add new User Banks? |
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rs.felicio wrote: | Hello Guys (Especially for Korg).
After version 2.0, our options to create or buy new progs and combis (free or not) have greatly increased. So, there are any plans to add new User Banks (Progs and Combis)?
On this subject, just one simple suggestion...
I think that would be important and really a great differential if we could (as a Kronos users) get some information about the main plans for future SOs.
I work for a software company and often we analyze the "Wish List + improvements and reported bugs" and we publish to our users a "road map"..... just plans, no promises, no dates, no confidential information or related to market intelligence
Just a way to say to the users:
1 - We hear you!!
2 - The future for our product should be ....
3 - Keep loyal to our brand and our product...
I know that in some moments this process it can create speculation, but otherwise, think that would be really great for us and for the new "customers".
So, just a humble opinion. |
best you can do is sign up for OS bug testing. Korg looks for users at times. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams
https://soundcloud.com/user-898236994 |
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Vlad_77 Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 380 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think Korg has been splendid thus far with support! They've released Krome of course and the KingKorg (BAAAAD name, sorry) but I am seeing more Kronoi (is that the plural?) on the stages of MAJOR acts and I am pretty confident that Korg will continue to enhance this monster keyboard.
That said, and no I am not turning this into a Kurzweil propaganda fest, but, of the big four, Kurzweil seems to be the best in terms of product support. They are a small company yet released Kore 64 this year adding even greater dimension to the PC3 and PC3K series. Compare to Roland who essentially abandoned the Fantom G although to their credit they have made some nice additions to the Jupiter 80.
All of that said, I wish that Korg would offer support for OASYS owners. They made a huge investment and they were left to hang. And I thank OASYS owners for all of their help with we Kronos newbies and as a thank you for helping, Korg really should offer Kronos enhancements to them.
Best,
Vlad _________________ Current gear: Kronos, Jupiter 80, Kurzweil PC3,Roland Fantom X8, Roland XV-88 (yep, its old, but the ACTION is heaven and those XV-3080 sounds are still wonderful for me), Radias-R, Motif ES (yeah it's older but I love the guitars ) |
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MoonMusic Senior Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 283
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I filled all my sound banks with free sounds from here - http://korgpatches.com/patches/kronos/
Good Luck.....moon _________________ Keyboards - Korg Kronos X, Kawai K5000W,M-Audio Venom, Ensoniq TS-12,Kawai K4
Computers - Macbook Pro, Mac Pro "Nehalem"
Interfaces - M-Box Pro, Digidesign 96i,192, Midi IO, Digidesign PRE
DAW - Protools 9 - HD3 Accel
Plugs - All Spectrasonics,Steve Slate Drums 4.0,Slate Trigger,NI Komplete 9 Ultimate,Korg Legacy,Melodyne 3,Evo Autotune,HD3 Pack,Liquid Mix, Eleven, Ample Sound Guitars
Mics - Audio Technica 4033sm, Apogee mic, several Shure SM-57s, 2- Beta 52, 2- AT 3031, 2- Samson CO2
Other - V-Drums, DW Drums, Zildjian A Customs, Muse Research Qu4ttro, Open Labs Miko Timbaland Edition |
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Bugra Ekuklu Junior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 84 Location: Sariyer, Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I was looking for how to add new banks, ATM. I think it is due to MIDI program changing via external device, considering Kronos as master keyboard. I need more sound banks, I don't want to overwrite factory patches either. Every song means new program (sometimes 2-3-...- once I did 8 ), sometimes new combi. I have enough location for combis, even though nowadays I'm planning to change all my live play programs to combis to use piano from an external keyboard, if I want. However this is absolutely not a solution to create space for new programs, you know you have to keep programs to use them in combis.
Is there a chance to save bank file therefore I can have more space?
Buğra _________________ Current setup: Korg Kronos X 73, Yamaha HS50M, Apple MBP Late 2013, Roland A-500 Pro, iPad. |
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billysynth1 Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 1148 Location: Australia/Melbourne
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:24 am Post subject: |
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All my user banks are full....so I wont purchase anymore new sounds created for the Kronos. I don't wish to subtract sounds to get new sounds in...I wish they would come up with a way to add new sound banks. _________________ Yamaha C1 Grand Piano.
Korg Oasys 88, Jupiter 80
Kronos 88, V Synth GT
I am a student of classical piano...I am not a classical pianist. |
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AdDeRoo Platinum Member
Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 524 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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billysynth1 wrote: | All my user banks are full.... |
That said, is there a limit of the number of User Sample Banks that the Kronos can handle (obviously when you stay inside the RAM limited)?
I have currently installed many individual smaller User Sample Banks that I autoload when needed. But I am experiencing a slight problem at the moment working on two new user sample banks: The Kronos mixes up the last two ones: after a fresh re-start it is assigning samples of the wrong one to Programs and vice versa, when programmed to do the right thing
Still figuring out what the issue is and starting from scratch again, but maybe one issue is an upper limit in the number of User Sample Banks?? _________________ Ad
Current gear : Korg Kronos 88 (SN 0979) / Nektar LX88+ / Korg PA2X / Kurzweil K2500R / Korg Nanopad2 / Neo Ventilator / Akai EWI USB / Cantabile / Reaper / Cakewalk / Reason / way too many VST's |
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SanderXpander Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860
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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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There shouldn't be, I don't think - but perhaps some of the Userbank IDs got mixed up? You can resave the problematic banks and force a new ID.
As to the program memory limit, don't forget you can browse PCGs on the hard drive. Why this won't let you browse by category as you normally would, or let you use those programs in a combi, it's still a very useful way of auditioning banks and perhaps picking and loading a sound. I always have a "working bank" where I load sounds I actually need for a gig. |
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Bugra Ekuklu Junior Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2013 Posts: 84 Location: Sariyer, Istanbul, Turkey
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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SanderXpander wrote: | There shouldn't be, I don't think - but perhaps some of the Userbank IDs got mixed up? You can resave the problematic banks and force a new ID.
As to the program memory limit, don't forget you can browse PCGs on the hard drive. Why this won't let you browse by category as you normally would, or let you use those programs in a combi, it's still a very useful way of auditioning banks and perhaps picking and loading a sound. I always have a "working bank" where I load sounds I actually need for a gig. |
I've just realized I can save banks to PCG's. I'm new on Korg keyboards, I have to look to manual to understand which file does what. I really appreciated you, thanks. You are a life-saver, today I was going to delete some programs but now there is no need to do it.
Thank you Sander. _________________ Current setup: Korg Kronos X 73, Yamaha HS50M, Apple MBP Late 2013, Roland A-500 Pro, iPad. |
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AdDeRoo Platinum Member
Joined: 20 May 2009 Posts: 524 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:15 am Post subject: |
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SanderXpander wrote: | perhaps some of the Userbank IDs got mixed up? You can resave the problematic banks and force a new ID. |
Thanks Xander. This was indeed the problem, and it was solved by Loading in the KSC in memory, deleting all on SSD, and resaving the Samples and create the UserSampleBank again, with forcing the new ID option at the bottom
Thanks for your advice. That's why I love this forum
Ad _________________ Ad
Current gear : Korg Kronos 88 (SN 0979) / Nektar LX88+ / Korg PA2X / Kurzweil K2500R / Korg Nanopad2 / Neo Ventilator / Akai EWI USB / Cantabile / Reaper / Cakewalk / Reason / way too many VST's |
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MRedZac Senior Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 374 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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More User-Banks ? - Yes, that would be great, since importing new sounds will always let me overwrite existing ones... _________________ Keys+Sound Sources: Kronos 61, X2, X3, i3, i30, SG pro X, nanoPAD2, Yamaha MU100R, 2x CME UF70, Behringer FCB-1010, Yamaha FC-7
Sequencer: Steinberg Cubase Pro 8 & Nuendo 6.5
Outboard FX from Lexcion, Sony and Yamaha
Digital Mixers only from Yamaha
http://www.mediacoustics.eu
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http://www.steamshop24.eu |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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MRedZac wrote: | More User-Banks ? - Yes, that would be great, since importing new sounds will always let me overwrite existing ones... |
You could use multiple PCG files ... but yes it's true that more banks would be better. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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Vlad_77 Senior Member
Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Posts: 380 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I have and love a Jupiter 80 and a Kronos. That said, in comparison, Korg have been extremely generous in supplying an ample amount of user banks. My only complaint about the Jupiter 80 is that there are not nearly enough. Roland seems notorious for this and for storing favorites which I will get to in a moment.
One of the strengths of the Jupiter 80 is the ability to build very complex patches very quickly. But, Roland only allows 256 Registrations and yet these Registration are the big selling point to this otherwise outstanding synth. I more frequently find myself working at the Live Set level or using the ALT function to assign what I want where I want. It's not the most elegant solution but it does work. But, why are we limited to 256 Registrations? I have no idea as Registrations act as pointers if you will which are similar to Combis in Korg speak and Setups in Kurzweil's lexicon.
Korg doubled the available user banks such that I feel I can create all day if I had the time and also the programming chops of Nedim, Kid Nepro, Sharp, Kevin Nolan, and QuiRobinez. Would I like more? Of course, but, it isn't like there only 100 user slots or even 256.
Oh yeah, another bit of Roland stinginess! I own and still love my Fantom X. It's still a powerful workstation. The major drawback for me? In the X, Roland allows you to save only 64 patches as favorites! Korg, Kurzweil, and Yamaha knock Roland out of the park in this area. Finally, on 1 GB cards, you can only save 256 patches!
So, it speaks well of Kronos that we want more areas for our own sounds or for imported libraries, but, it seems to me that compared to Roland, Korg is extremely generous. Who knows, maybe a future update will require us to merely hold the Enter key while pressing I-A and U-A and whammo! We have UUU-AAA through UUU-GGG.
Until then, for those whose Kronos is full, maybe some difficult choices have to be made. For live musicians, doing aload from USB between sets is an easy matter and quick.
Best,
Vlad _________________ Current gear: Kronos, Jupiter 80, Kurzweil PC3,Roland Fantom X8, Roland XV-88 (yep, its old, but the ACTION is heaven and those XV-3080 sounds are still wonderful for me), Radias-R, Motif ES (yeah it's older but I love the guitars ) |
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Shakil Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 1169 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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billysynth1 wrote: | All my user banks are full....so I wont purchase anymore new sounds created for the Kronos. I don't wish to subtract sounds to get new sounds in...I wish they would come up with a way to add new sound banks. |
There is no other workstation than KRONOS with this many programmable sounds, except the Alesis Fusion, which reads directly from the hard drive, so no limit, but there is seconds of lag to call up a new sound.
Also, you can have unlimited number of PCGs, and you can preview any sounds on the SSD without loading the whole PCG.
I think there are enough user banks on KRONOS. Remember the preload banks are also user banks, you can modify the programs.
What KRONOS needs is program editing capability in Combi or Song mode, so that your custom version of the programs for songs can be saved with the Song file itself. _________________ Roland Fantom-G6 ARX1, Korg M3-m exb-Radias, Korg Z1-18v, Roland MC-808, Roland MC-909, Korg microKontrol. |
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