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Guinness1968 · Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 4

Hi,

Trying to layer two sounds.
Have selected a blank registration in combi mode.
Selected piano as sound 1
Selected strings as sound 2

Only sound 1 (piano) plays

What am I doing wrong ?

Cheers.

cello · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject:

Sounds like you need to put the two sounds on the same midi channel.

Go to this page on the Krome screen and make sure tracks 1 and 2 are on the same midi channel -> P3: Timbre Parameters– MIDI T01–08
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Guinness1968 · Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 4

Excellent, thanks for reply.

When you say 'this page on the Krome screen' ?

Only had the piano 1 day, so assuming layering sounds would be straight forward.
The layers seem to be in place, but only the piano plays.
Only the piano volume monitor, the blue rising and falling indicator, moves.

Surely it should be easier than this ?

billbaker · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:43 pm Post subject:

Easy... if you know the procedure it becomes automatic.

As much as possible Korg's made the just-out-of-the-box playing experience as intuitive as possible.

But you've moved (very quickly, apparently) into finding out what you can do beyond presets. Bravo! A lot of people are way more reluctant to even try that after years of owning a keyboard.

But... You've bought into a level of necessary complexity because the Krome is far more capable than an entry level or home keyboard.

On those you have a preset, perhaps with a dedicated button that is on/off. Layering is a matter of yes or no, not of degrees of yes or no or directions that that message will travel.

In a combination you have a lot of options that those other keyboards never address - MIDI channel of the layer, arpeggio functions, overall balance, velocity cross-fading... a very long list of more parameters.

So, yes, you have to do some basic things like not only selecting a voice (bank/location), but enabling it (on/off), determining what section (internal or arp) plays it or whether it is exported (int/ext source) and on what channel it will be played.

I recommend not only looking at the manual (an ongoing process - not 1 day) but also exploring how some of your favorite presets are put together. It helps. Also, check out a simple preset and select different voices than the ones they have selected - you can probably find some 2 instrument set-ups ( X and Y) that will appeal more with voices you select.

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morty · Full Member Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 142

[quote="Guinness1968"]Hi,

Trying to layer two sounds.
Have selected a blank registration in combi mode.
Selected piano as sound 1
Selected strings as sound 2

Only sound 1 (piano) plays

What am I doing wrong

Hi Guinness.
I found the easiest way to layer was to find in the combination mode a piano already layered with a string (for example) then you can edit the piano individually with the keyboard category selection and edit the string in the string category section. I find it a lot easier this way because the template is already done for you, after you've finished all editing write the edit into D in Comb section and its done * make sure the memory banks are not set to protect or you cant store your edit
and you might lose your edit when machine is turned off...do the edits first, then protect them.You can do this with other layers as well
for example if the template fits.... you can edit piano with a pad/organ or EP with a string etc etc.Note if you layer too many sounds, you could lose some polyphony thats why the templates help, they are already designed with various layers... compared to starting from scratch.

I hope this helped
steve

Guinness1968 · Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 4

Firstly, what a great resource this is. Thank you very much for the advice.

Working fine now. Stage pianos I've had before seemed so simple when it came to combining a few sounds. Hadn't assumed you would have to first enable midi channels first. All new to me. However, by the sounds of it, it would appear that this board if far more capable and complex so look forward to delving a bit deeper.
I'm concerned slightly at the usability on stage when trying to fade layers up and down. The touch screen technology is fantastic but somewhat 'fiddly' compared to faders on Yamaha S90XS or Roland RD models.
What would really help would be if the user controls on the left could be configured to fade up the layer volumes.
Maybe they can. Can they ?

Again, thanks again for the advice. Very much appreciate it.

Cheers.

cello · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject:

By using 'Tone Adjust' the levels of progs in a combi can be adjusted in real time (as well as other parameters).

Page EN-10 in the Quick guide refers.
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