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Mahalo Junior Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2012 Posts: 56
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:07 am Post subject: Program Error for all the Acoustic Pianos - top notes sticky |
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Found the Program error on L/R Piano that makes the top notes sustain all the time and it is also I believe on all ACOUSTIC Pianos such as A.Pianos, Romance Pf, etc.
There seems to be a setting at +INF which should be maybe +99 or some lesser value?
Using the editor open L/R Piano, Tab AMS Mix, then tab Common Key Track,
The setting High-Top is +Inf which must cause a sustain for notes about the High Break of D#6.
No idea what any of that AMS mix High Top is about... but it just looks wrong and exactly those notes have faulty sustain all the time... my USB socket (on my brand new microSTATION) is broken so I cannot easily edit and check myself. |
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X-Trade Moderator
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 6494 Location: Leeds, UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure but I believe that on a real grand piano the highest notes will have sustain, so this could be intentional.
I haven't got a MicroStation so can't check it out though. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
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Mahalo Junior Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: |
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No. It is a fault. |
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X-Trade Moderator
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Well if you say that it is only the pianos that have it, and it is on more or less every piano, then it would have to have been programmed intentionally, as there is no setting that would just affect 'all pianos' like that. _________________ Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro |
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lidserter Full Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2012 Posts: 134
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Program Error for all the Acoustic Pianos - top notes st |
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Mahalo wrote: | Found the Program error on L/R Piano that makes the top notes sustain all the time and it is also I believe on all ACOUSTIC Pianos such as A.Pianos, Romance Pf, etc.
There seems to be a setting at +INF which should be maybe +99 or some lesser value?
Using the editor open L/R Piano, Tab AMS Mix, then tab Common Key Track,
The setting High-Top is +Inf which must cause a sustain for notes about the High Break of D#6.
No idea what any of that AMS mix High Top is about... but it just looks wrong and exactly those notes have faulty sustain all the time... my USB socket (on my brand new microSTATION) is broken so I cannot easily edit and check myself. |
In fact it is intentional. There is a feature called HOLD, editable via editor but switchable also via MS itself (Prog Edit > OSC Common > Hold). It enable users to hold a specific range of the keyboard, defined with hold bottom and hold top key parameters.
Right from the Parameter guide, pdf page 92:
"Using Hold with Acoustic Pianos:
Hold is also useful for simulating the top octaves of an
acoustic piano, in which notes always sustain until they fade
out naturally, regardless of how long you hold the key.
The “Hold Bottom Key” and “Hold Top Key” parameters
are designed for exactly this purpose. They let you limit the
effect of the Hold parameter to a specific range of the keyboard." |
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