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polop Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: Why The DesignGraphic Of Combis/Sequencer mode Is Very Poor? |
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hi, why korg dont update the look of mode combis/sequencer? it's very poor for the capacity of this machine, the program mode is more fun with the piano, electric piano design & others small pictures for instruments (mini screen of trumpets, voices, synthé dw8000, korg electribe ect.. but when select combis or songs i think it's very good for the best feeling if we can play for example a piano section while seeing this screen:
a special section in mode songs/combis for View the instrument will be a great idea
ps: another example of kronos design graphic too much old:
Fantom G
Korg Kronos
Korg Kronos
Fantom G
I think KORG could make an effort for a machine which costs this PRICE this is not a Toy
TO take example on ROLAND
Korg Kronos
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padking Full Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Posts: 178 Location: Laval,quebec
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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it's maybe simpler with program , often
one instrument (piano)
with a combi like the era of Kronos, what
kind of picture do you use ?
There's a lot of information on the first page
of a combi not much space left for anything,
and hey! the fonts are small enough no
space to spare.
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polop Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:56 am Post subject: |
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hi padking, in the special section "instrument view" for example, play & record in selected channel with the screen like electric piano ect.. after you can select another section first page for mix or other.
ps: for example!:look at this image of jp
imagine you are with the kronos in section "instrument view" in track 1
after you select track 2 ect..
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Wow, they should put that in Logic Pro too! I don't like your picture because it's obviously unfinished. They should have Avatars like the Wii or PS3.
I think Garage Band for the iPad has a screen like this. Much cooler though.
and think, Garage Band costs $5.
_________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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polop Junior Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think Garage Band for the iPad has a screen like this.Much cooler though. |
yes garage has very good icons, i looked too the fantom g, kronos sequencer has need for relooking extreme
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aron Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:50 am Post subject: |
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This is a sort of a joke, but you know, if you guys have ever used Sequencer Plus from the old, old old days, it never crashed and just was a killer sequencer considering it was ASCII based.
No reason why something like this couldn't run on the Kronos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_p4IgBD5oE _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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sani Senior Member
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 354 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Why The Design Of Combis/Sequencer mode Is Very Poor? |
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polop wrote: | hi, why korg dont update the look of mode combis/sequencer? it's very poor for the capacity of this machine, the program mode is more fun with the piano, electric piano design & others small pictures for instruments (mini screen of trumpets, voices, synthé dw8000, korg electribe ect.. but when select combis or songs i think it's very good for the best feeling if we can play for example a piano section while seeing this screen:
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The combi mode is a multitimbral mode where you play up to 16 timbres either as split or layer or a combination of both. Personally, the last thing I would want to have is looking at the screen changing some "fancy" icons whenever I move from one part zone to another. The purpose of the screen is to give you information and not to entertain you for some fun reasons. |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I rather have a symbol into each combi screen to show which timbres are actually giving sound (i.e. when I play on a Kronos or external keyboard connected to the Kronos, that it shows a level bar or symbol).
Now the only way to find out which timbre(s) I should select for changing a sound is to mute all one by one or check the MIDI channels and key/velocity zones. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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padking wrote: | it's maybe simpler with program , often
one instrument (piano)
with a combi like the era of Kronos, what
kind of picture do you use ?
Padking |
Simple. A picture of Rich, Dan and Sharp !!! |
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padking Full Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's does look much better, but is it
very useful ? I think it's very personal,
but if they can find I good blend between
good look and effectiveness why not ?
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jimknopf Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Padking, nothing against nice design and some pics.
But frankly, to me more pics in combis(!) is about the LEAST important thing in such a synth as a Kronos. I just try to imagine little pics for the different kinds of sounds in a Minimoog.
I agree that the sequencer could use a good update both in surface and functions. It's functionality is better than it looks at first sight though, and effectively I can use it better than the one I had on my Fantom G. The latter looked good, but had an even more problematic level of functionality (missing important edit functions, fat problems with uneven measures, bugs like a mouse not hitting the tracks where it pointed, unnecessary switching between modes etc.).
My clear priority for the Kronos would be:
- solve hardware issues where they occured
- publish the editor
- update the sequencer to at least M3 level
- formatting options in song lists
- etc. etc.
and only then, after a lot of other things, something like little pics for instruments in combis would come to my mind. _________________ Kronos 73 - Moog Voyager RME - Moog LP TE - Behringer Model D - Prophet 6 - Roland Jupiter Xm - Rhodes Stage 73 Mk I - Elektron Analog Rytm MkII - Roland TR-6s - Cubase 12 Pro + Groove Agent 5 |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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In piano mode I'd have a pic if angelina jolie playing the piano. Drum programme, angelina jolie playing the drums. Synth programme angelina jolie playing the synth.
Infact if my Kronos was like that. The whole keyboard would be a 'horn' section!!
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irtehyar Junior Member
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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jimknopf wrote: | Padking, nothing against nice design and some pics.
But frankly, to me more pics in combis(!) is about the LEAST important thing in such a synth as a Kronos. I just try to imagine little pics for the different kinds of sounds in a Minimoog.
I agree that the sequencer could use a good update both in surface and functions. It's functionality is better than it looks at first sight though, and effectively I can use it better than the one I had on my Fantom G. The latter looked good, but had an even more problematic level of functionality (missing important edit functions, fat problems with uneven measures, bugs like a mouse not hitting the tracks where it pointed, unnecessary switching between modes etc.).
My clear priority for the Kronos would be:
- solve hardware issues where they occured
- publish the editor
- update the sequencer to at least M3 level
- formatting options in song lists
- etc. etc.
and only then, after a lot of other things, something like little pics for instruments in combis would come to my mind. |
I agree to this, however since I'm not so into sequencing/songs, I would like more features for easier handling of programs/combis etc. But the main priority is equal:
- first hardware issues
- major software bugs (there aren't any ones left I think)
- software features
- minor software bugs and/or gimmicks _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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runningman67 wrote: | In piano mode I'd have a pic if angelina jolie playing the piano. Drum programme, angelina jolie playing the drums. Synth programme angelina jolie playing the synth.
Infact if my Kronos was like that. The whole keyboard would be a 'horn' section!!
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This is the second day I give a new 'business case' to Korg:
Let them bring out updates where Angelina Jolie is really playing the instrument you select (per category). So not a picture, but a video.
Korg could even ask money for it (and possibly it would be sold too). And make with other celebraties too ... And one with Jordan Rudess for women to buy ( ???) _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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