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Why 61s are shipped to USA and not 73s & 88s?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Why 61s are shipped to USA and not 73s & 88s? Reply with quote

As with the Access Virus line, and many other keyboard lines, the guts for the Korg Kronos variations are identical inside. It's mainly the case that is different with a different keybed. That reduces production costs. One motherboard. One OS. One production line for the guts.

The RH3 keybed for the 73s and 88s is not even new. Been in production for quite some time.

Why would the 73s and 88s be delayed nearly 3 months behind the 61 key versions? Just looking for a logical explaination...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bodies are different, you are correct.

If I were manufacturing something with three different bodies and assuming that I would sell out the initial run regardless, I would also do a run of the smallest one first. This way, I could get more units in a shipping container, and also achieve the assembly line efficiencies that go with repeatedly making the same model.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the demand is spread almost equally over the 3 models. This is verified by my Sweetwater rep. Korg is leaving the 73 and 88 pre-order'ers to hang for 8 months (jan-sept). That's crazy. Sorry for the rant.. just getting a bit excited to get my 88. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnjoyRC wrote:
But the demand is spread almost equally over the 3 models. This is verified by my Sweetwater rep. Korg is leaving the 73 and 88 pre-order'ers to hang for 8 months (jan-sept). That's crazy. Sorry for the rant.. just getting a but excited to get my 88. Confused


actually, 88's (historically) have always outsold 61's according to my dealer.

And 88's command bigger bucks, too.

Its a mystery to me why Korg let the 88's hang out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any 73/88 versions out even in Japan? I've only heard about 61s, period.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob314159 wrote:
Are there any 73/88 versions out even in Japan? I've only heard about 61s, period.

Yes.. all flavors are shipping in Japan

danatkorg wrote:
I can't comment on expected shipping dates in the USA, but all three models are already for sale in Japan.
- Dan

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just my 2 cents,
I'm guessing the earthquake disrupted the manufacturing line, or parts supply, in one way or another. The 61's might have been already in production.
I feel your pain guys....but this is the reality, I'm sure we'll all remember "The Big Wait for Kronos" of 2011, and have stories for a lifetime. Personally, I have never waited for something in my life so bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am guessing there may be a piano action keybed supply issue.

I believe the 88 Korg M3 was initially delayed also -- i.e. the 61 and 73s came out first, followed by the 88s.

Alternatively, when the OASYS was released, the 88 key version arrived in the U.S. at least one month before the 76 key version.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember Dan saying ( in the oaysys days ) that first they do a manufacturing run on one keyboard, ex 76keys, then they set up the machinery to do the 88keys. Also, i think they run other synths through this same assembly line, eg M50s? As i said, 'i think' they run other keyboards.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats funny, cause kurzweil released the 88 pc3k8 first, and i want the 76, the pc3k8 has been out for months, so go figure, i guess kurzweil said they'd go the safe route first, and release the 88, that sells better than the 61 from what i've read.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob314159 wrote:
Are there any 73/88 versions out even in Japan? I've only heard about 61s, period.

Good point though.. I haven't heard of anyone reporting on anything but a 61 contrary to Dan's quote about all models for sale in Japan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnjoyRC wrote:
I haven't heard of anyone reporting on anything but a 61 contrary to Dan's quote about all models for sale in Japan.


he said "on sale", your saying "sold": that's different: we are probably getting a initial feedback about customers' preferences. Me; I started from "no" and I am now considering the 61, wouldn't consider the 88, much less the 73, due to some peculiarities of the Kronos.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of interest Ozy, what's making you change your mind?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I picture the 61 like a Volkswagon Beetle with a Turbine engine in it. Instead of a Leer Jet where the Turbine engine should be. Cool
But, it's just all personal taste.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnjoyRC wrote:
Sometimes I picture the 61 like a Volkswagon Beetle with a Turbine engine in it. Instead of a Leer Jet where the Turbine engine should be. Cool
But, it's just all personal taste.

Nah...fighter jet vs. bomber! Smile
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