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tritonlover2000 Junior Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: Kronos vs DAW Mac or Musiccomputing |
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What are your thoughts?
I think a Mac with MIDI controller or a keyboard from Musiccomputing loaded with plugins from East West, Omnisphere, Trillian, Stylus RMX, Rob Papen stuff, Musiclab real guitar or strat, Korg Legacy will eat the Kronos for breakfast. _________________ "Korg simply makes the best sounding synths. Thank you Katoh and the rest!" |
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EvilDragon Platinum Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1992 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Take that on stage and say hello to non-seamless non-realtime patch changes, CPU drainage like you've never seen before, and in case of too many voices needed to be streamed, buffer dropouts and clicks! |
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MartinHines Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3036 Location: Topeka, KS (USA)
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:45 am Post subject: |
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It will be interesting to see if MusicComputing can manage to do better than OpenLabs given MusicComputng's lower prices.
It will also be interesting to see how well the MusicComputing's dockstation keyboard does in the marketplace. It will probably depend on how well MC can provide an integrated experience between the controllers and multiple VST plugins.
Also, some of the VST plugins you mentioned use a lot of computer system resources, so that can be a challenge if you want to play them all together like a traditional workstation "combi".
I still expect the vast majority of gigging keyboardists to use products from the Big 3. |
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chilly7 Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Jun 2009 Posts: 821 Location: planet Earth
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Well i guess VSTs are still rule the World with the sound quality.
I am speaking about the Top quality VSTs
but deffinatly Korg wanted to bring Kronos clouse to VST, ulike idiots from Yamaha, Roland, Kurzweil who still gives us 90s old compressed sample playback technology.
I am pretty shure thay planed to use it atlist for next 10 years or more if Korg would not come up with Kronos.
So speking baout Kronos i would say it depend what kind of VST to compare.
If to speak about Pipe Organs like Haupwerk offers,no one even came clouse to the sound quality, possibilities and realism that thay offer
but if to speak about analog stuff and acoustic pianos and electric pianos, i guess Korg Kronos should be very competiable to hight quality VSTs..
but don't forget that with Kronos u have all that stuff in one synth so it is possible to Kombain all them to creat some very unusual sounds... _________________ https://слово-божье.рф
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baboon Junior Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 81
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Sennheiser Hd800?Wow
A new height of sonic perspective as you experience a high-fidelity natural hearing experience.
Ok but for example,you plug in the headphone direct in the kronos.
Is it still the effort to use the HD 800?Or a smaller one is good enough? |
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macalister Guest
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Kronos vs DAW Mac or Musiccomputing |
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tritonlover2000 wrote: | What are your thoughts?
I think a Mac with MIDI controller or a keyboard from Musiccomputing loaded with plugins from East West, Omnisphere, Trillian, Stylus RMX, Rob Papen stuff, Musiclab real guitar or strat, Korg Legacy will eat the Kronos for breakfast. |
Easily.... glup !...Lol |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Macalister, a znaci tako jeli...samo po komentima sam odma skontao da si
Balkanac i naravno, zna se kakvi smo mi...sramota sto zivimo na ovu Zemlju.
Ignore this guy, its already figured it out...i am ashamed to be from where
he is too (Balkans)...it is in our blood, when we cant have something or if
something is better then what we have we just simply attack it out of jelaousy.
And why is Tritonlover Glup(Stupid)? Cuz he is right? With all the love for
Korg you really think Kronos can do something what a computer can or
you are just dreaming? Can someone really compare Kronos to a 2000$
only Soundcard? Apogee converters? I7 Quad Cores? 500GBs libries?
Do some calculation and lets see who is Glup! _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
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orpheus2006 Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 597 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Nedim, thanks for clarification.
BTW I thought you have an M3, but your signature now says sth else. Did you change gear?
_________________ www.soundcloud.com/orpheus2006
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Korg M3-88 w/ EXB-Radias, Yamaha Motif Rack w/ PLG150-AN & PLG150-DR, Novation A-Station, RME Multiface II Audio Interface, Thinkpad T60 Notebook w/ Sonar X3 and various VSTi, Event TR8 monitors, Beyerdynamic DT-770 headphones |
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tritonlover2000 Junior Member
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:25 am Post subject: |
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BasariStudios wrote: | Macalister, a znaci tako jeli...samo po komentima sam odma skontao da si
Balkanac i naravno, zna se kakvi smo mi...sramota sto zivimo na ovu Zemlju.
Ignore this guy, its already figured it out...i am ashamed to be from where
he is too (Balkans)...it is in our blood, when we cant have something or if
something is better then what we have we just simply attack it out of jelaousy.
And why is Tritonlover Glup(Stupid)? Cuz he is right? With all the love for
Korg you really think Kronos can do something what a computer can or
you are just dreaming? Can someone really compare Kronos to a 2000$
only Soundcard? Apogee converters? I7 Quad Cores? 500GBs libries?
Do some calculation and lets see who is Glup! |
Is it also central asian/balkan characteristic to be rude and call ppl names? sorry mate...i aint' stupid. i just asked. gigabytes of sound libraries does not necessarily mean quality. there are many software sound libraries that have terabytes but sound horrible.
if korg can make good use of 30gb ssd and program them well, i am all for it. _________________ "Korg simply makes the best sounding synths. Thank you Katoh and the rest!" |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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orpheus2006 wrote: | Nedim, thanks for clarification.
BTW I thought you have an M3, but your signature now says sth else. Did you change gear?
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Lolllzzzzz...i just saw this now...yes, new gear...LOL! _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
2 850 PRO 256GB SSDs. 1 850 EVO 1TB SSD. Acustica: Nebula Server 3 Ultimate, Murano, Magenta 3, Navy, Titanium. |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 6510 Location: NYC, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:19 am Post subject: |
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tritonlover2000 wrote: | Is it also central asian/balkan characteristic to be rude and call ppl names? sorry mate...i aint' stupid. i just asked. gigabytes of sound libraries does not necessarily mean quality. there are many software sound libraries that have terabytes but sound horrible.
if korg can make good use of 30gb ssd and program them well, i am all for it. |
Nah...i didnt call you stupid...he did. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
Cubase 8.5 Pro. Windows 7 X64. ASUS SaberTooth X99. Intel I7 5820K. ASUS GTX 960 Strix OC 2GB. 4x8 GB G.SKILL.
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tritonlover2000 Junior Member
Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:47 am Post subject: |
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mr basari, my apologies mate! i didn't mean to offend with the central asian stuff. i have many friends from uzbekistan and azerbaijan. and i love the food and music.
and whoever called me stupid, please grow up, child. _________________ "Korg simply makes the best sounding synths. Thank you Katoh and the rest!" |
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BasariStudios Approved Merchant
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:50 am Post subject: |
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I was just translating the GLUP word he said...and thats what Glup means, Stupid...so maybe you missunderstood. _________________ http://www.basaristudios.com
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Bachus Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 3127
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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MartinHines wrote: | It will be interesting to see if MusicComputing can manage to do better than OpenLabs given MusicComputng's lower prices.
It will also be interesting to see how well the MusicComputing's dockstation keyboard does in the marketplace. It will probably depend on how well MC can provide an integrated experience between the controllers and multiple VST plugins.
Also, some of the VST plugins you mentioned use a lot of computer system resources, so that can be a challenge if you want to play them all together like a traditional workstation "combi".
I still expect the vast majority of gigging keyboardists to use products from the Big 3. |
I think Musiccomputing is Victor Wong strikes back take 2..
Victor Wong is one of the few innovative people in the music buiseness, a creative brain, but not a buisnessman.. Some of the stuff for Openlabs was really brilliant, like the D-beat and RIff.
The lower price of these new systems opens up a whole other market, the market of home users and amateur musicians that can afford these units at these lower prices...
But i guess he is making the same mistake again as with Openlabs.... to many products... (production stations, touchscreen based systems, macbook Pro docks, HArdware DAWS)
He should concentrate on one or two products, and only when they are succesfull develop more products.. HE should have concentrated on something people can use in addition to a MAsterkeyboard/Stage piano/synth/workstation)
He should have created a touchscreen solution (24 or 27") with the controll parts from the production station added to that... A big unit with sliders/knobs(left)touchscreen(middle)drumpad/matrix(right)... people could just set it up standing behind their Kronos controlling the best of both worlds..
And thats the answer to OP's orriginal question... Workstations and software sollutions make the perfect combo, espescially in combination with (large) touchscreens... |
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